Hi All!
I've got a mailman-2.1.15 list which is BCC'ed by an original e-mail message. Is it possible to get/view the original recipient at WEBUI (along with Subject and Sender)?
Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
On 03/25/2016 10:23 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote:
I've got a mailman-2.1.15 list which is BCC'ed by an original e-mail message. Is it possible to get/view the original recipient at WEBUI (along with Subject and Sender)?
I don't understand. If you are asking is it possible to find out what was in the original Bcc: list from the received message, the answer is No except you can know from the Received: headers how it got to you, but not to any other potential recipient.
If you are asking about the Mailman web admindb UI, you can see the headers of the message there if you click one of the links to show the message detail, but you already know that the recipient of the message was the list or it wouldn't be there.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
25.03.16 21:34, Mark Sapiro пишет:
I don't understand. If you are asking is it possible to find out what was in the original Bcc: list from the received message, the answer is No except you can know from the Received: headers how it got to you, but not to any other potential recipient.
If you are asking about the Mailman web admindb UI, you can see the headers of the message there if you click one of the links to show the message detail, but you already know that the recipient of the message was the list or it wouldn't be there.
Here is an example. Original e-mail: ... From: sender@domain.tld To: recipient@another.tld [*] BCC: list@maillist.tld Subject: E-mail subject
<Email text here> ...
Here is a WEBUI: ... E-mail subject Sender data here Recipient data here [*] <-- I need this data at WEBUI <other stuff> ...
Hope I'm more clear now.
Thank you.
-- WBR, bsam
On 03/25/2016 12:47 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote:
Here is an example. Original e-mail: ... From: sender@domain.tld To: recipient@another.tld [*] BCC: list@maillist.tld Subject: E-mail subject
<Email text here> ...
Here is a WEBUI: ... E-mail subject Sender data here Recipient data here [*] <-- I need this data at WEBUI
If you click on the details link in the web UI, you can see the headers of the message which includes that. Showing all the To: and Cc: recipients (potentially a long list) on the summary page would add a lot of clutter. The information is available in the detailed listing of the held message. Granted it's another click to get it, but it is available if you need it.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
25.03.16 23:13, Mark Sapiro пишет:
On 03/25/2016 12:47 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote:
Here is an example. Original e-mail: ... From: sender@domain.tld To: recipient@another.tld [*] BCC: list@maillist.tld Subject: E-mail subject
<Email text here> ...
Here is a WEBUI: ... E-mail subject Sender data here Recipient data here [*] <-- I need this data at WEBUI
If you click on the details link in the web UI, you can see the headers of the message which includes that. Showing all the To: and Cc: recipients (potentially a long list) on the summary page would add a lot of clutter. The information is available in the detailed listing of the held message. Granted it's another click to get it, but it is available if you need it.
Sure, one click is acceptable. But I'm not sure what is "the details" link you are talking about?
Just to be sure, I checked up your e-mail: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2016-March/080623.html
And there is no details link. My webui site looks the same. Should the detailed link be enabled somewhere?
Thank you.
WBR, bsam
On 03/25/2016 01:30 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote:
And there is no details link. My webui site looks the same. Should the detailed link be enabled somewhere?
The web admindb summary page has a Held Messages table. The right hand column in this table has entries like:
Click on the message number to view the individual message, or you can view all messages from user@example.com
[1] Subject: ... Size: ... Reason: ... Received: ...
[2] Subject: ... Size: ... Reason: ... Received: ...
Each number ([1] and [2] in this example) is a link to the details page for that message. "view all messages from user@example.com" is a link to a page that displays the details for all the messages from that sender.
Most of the possible moderator actions are also available on that page including the ability to provide a reject reason for a rejection.
Do you not see that?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
26.03.16 00:05, Mark Sapiro пишет:
The web admindb summary page has a Held Messages table.
Seems I misused the terminology. By "webui" I meant ordinary user interface, i.e. when a user looks though an archive. Sorry.
Is it possible to show original recipient(s) at user web interface? (In my case there is only a couple of them actually)
Thank you.
-- WBR, bsam
On 03/26/2016 03:42 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote:
Seems I misused the terminology. By "webui" I meant ordinary user interface, i.e. when a user looks though an archive. Sorry.
Is it possible to show original recipient(s) at user web interface? (In my case there is only a couple of them actually)
If you are talking about the built-in pipermail archiver for Mailman 2.1, the answer is No[1]. The individual post HTML pages show only the sender. The periodic .txt(.gz) files do not have To: or Cc: headers.
This is true for all posts in the archive regardless of whether the list was or was not explicitly addressed. I.e. for any post in the pipermail archive it is not possible to see the explicit addressees of that message.
There are no plans to change that.
If you are talking about some other, external archive, that's up to the archiver which is not under our control.
[1] It is possible to download the entire cumulative archive mbox via a URL like http://example.com/mailman/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox and that mbox does have the original To: and Cc: headers of the messages, but it is the entire archive and not a practical way to see these headers for a specific message.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
26.03.16 19:55, Mark Sapiro пишет:
On 03/26/2016 03:42 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote:
Seems I misused the terminology. By "webui" I meant ordinary user interface, i.e. when a user looks though an archive. Sorry.
Is it possible to show original recipient(s) at user web interface? (In my case there is only a couple of them actually)
If you are talking about the built-in pipermail archiver for Mailman 2.1, the answer is No[1]. The individual post HTML pages show only the sender. The periodic .txt(.gz) files do not have To: or Cc: headers.
Ok, I suspected that.
This is true for all posts in the archive regardless of whether the list was or was not explicitly addressed. I.e. for any post in the pipermail archive it is not possible to see the explicit addressees of that message.
There are no plans to change that.
The rationale for this behaviour is clear.
If you are talking about some other, external archive, that's up to the archiver which is not under our control.
[1] It is possible to download the entire cumulative archive mbox via a URL like http://example.com/mailman/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox and that mbox does have the original To: and Cc: headers of the messages, but it is the entire archive and not a practical way to see these headers for a specific message.
I know about mbox files, but it's a bit overkill for my task. :-)
Thank you for you help and cooperation.
-- WBR, bsam
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