March's Private Archive...
Hi All,
We've had mailman running here for about 8 months.. and it seems as though there has not been any mail archived so far this month..there has been plently of traffic to the our lists in the last couple days.. and normally the emails are shown in the archives within minutes of the email being sent..
They are set up as private archives, so only list members/moderators/admins can view them.
Any thoughts as to why all of a sudden no archiving is taking place?
Cheers Spyro
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Spyro Polymiadis wrote:
We've had mailman running here for about 8 months.. and it seems as though there has not been any mail archived so far this month..there has been plently of traffic to the our lists in the last couple days.. and normally the emails are shown in the archives within minutes of the email being sent..
Has ArchRunner died? Are the messages still in Mailman's archive queue?
Does "ps -fAw | grep python" (or however you spell it) show all the runners? See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.078.htp> sec 1b and 5b for information on what you should see.
If ArchRunner is not running, see Mailman's qrunner and error logs for more info.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thanks for the info Mark..
Theres heaps of messages in the archive queue directory.. All qrunners and processes seem to be fine, and the error log/qrunner log she literally nothing out of the ordinary..
The steps in the faq also were ok... is there a way to flush/force the archive queue?
So.. still no luck ..
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:mark@msapiro.net] Sent: Monday, 3 March 2008 11:12 AM To: Spyro Polymiadis; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] March's Private Archive...
Spyro Polymiadis wrote:
We've had mailman running here for about 8 months.. and it seems as
though there has not been any mail archived so far this month..there has been plently of traffic to the our lists in the last couple days.. and normally the emails are shown in the archives within minutes of the email being sent..
Has ArchRunner died? Are the messages still in Mailman's archive queue?
Does "ps -fAw | grep python" (or however you spell it) show all the runners? See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.078.htp> sec 1b and 5b for information on what you should see.
If ArchRunner is not running, see Mailman's qrunner and error logs for more info.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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After a little digging.. it seemed a file in the queue had halted the archiver or something.. I moved all messages out of the queue and restarted mailman and dropped files back in there a few at a time. They are now processing again.... weird..
Thanks :)
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+spyropolymiadis=kromestudios.com@python.org [mailto:mailman-users- bounces+spyropolymiadis=kromestudios.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Spyro Polymiadis Sent: Monday, 3 March 2008 11:39 AM To: Mark Sapiro; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] March's Private Archive...
Thanks for the info Mark..
Theres heaps of messages in the archive queue directory.. All qrunners and processes seem to be fine, and the error log/qrunner log she literally nothing out of the ordinary..
The steps in the faq also were ok... is there a way to flush/force the archive queue?
So.. still no luck ..
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:mark@msapiro.net] Sent: Monday, 3 March 2008 11:12 AM To: Spyro Polymiadis; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] March's Private Archive...
Spyro Polymiadis wrote:
We've had mailman running here for about 8 months.. and it seems as
though there has not been any mail archived so far this month..there has been plently of traffic to the our lists in the last couple days.. and normally the emails are shown in the archives within minutes of the email being sent..
Has ArchRunner died? Are the messages still in Mailman's archive queue?
Does "ps -fAw | grep python" (or however you spell it) show all the runners? See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw- mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.078.htp> sec 1b and 5b for information on what you should see.
If ArchRunner is not running, see Mailman's qrunner and error logs for more info.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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Spyro Polymiadis wrote:
After a little digging.. it seemed a file in the queue had halted the archiver or something.. I moved all messages out of the queue and restarted mailman and dropped files back in there a few at a time. They are now processing again.... weird..
Assuming you didn't find any problem messages, I suspect ArchRunner was just in a coma for unknown reason. I suspect just restarting mailman or even just sending a SIGHUP to ArchRunner might have got it going.
If it was a message that was the problem the situation would depend on the Mailman version. Pre 2.1.9, the problem message was dequeued and was at least partially lost when you restarted Mailman. The message is probably missing from the HTML archive, but may be in the listname.mbox/listname.mbox file. Beginning with Mailman 2.1.9, the message would have been still in the queue as a .bak file. If the .bak file was in the queue when Mailman was restarted, it would have been processed. If it had been removed from the queue when Mailman was restarted and later put back, it is probably still in the queue until the next time ArchRunner restarts.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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