Apologies if this problem has been dealt with before but I am unable to find an answer anywhere in the archives.
Problem is this:
I can create a new mailing list no problems and subscribe a handful of users to it and send out email without any dramas but as soon as I import the entire mailing list subscribers (152 members so not big by any stretch of the imagination) nothing goes out. It all appears to work fine but no emails go out. This is driving me nuts so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f48580$@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds
Mailman post log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) post to members from paul@amdaat.com.au, size=24613, message-id=<001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f48580$@com.au>, success
Regards
Paul
- Paul Flower <paul@amdaat.com.au>:
Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f48580$@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds
And in your MTA's logs?
-- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebrandt@charite.de | http://www.charite.de
On 6/17/2010 6:33 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
- Paul Flower <paul@amdaat.com.au>:
Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f48580$@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds
And in your MTA's logs?
As Ralf suggests, this is now a sendmail issue. Mailman has successfully delivered the mail to sendmail per the above. How does sendmail deliver? does it deliver directly or via a smarthost. If it is via a smarthost, it is possible that the mail is being delivered to and relayed by sendmail as a single message with 152 RCPTs, and the smarthost doesn't accept that many RCPTs. If that is the case, setting say
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10
or so in mm_cfg.py may help.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Should have put this in the first post.
Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members", ctladdr=<members@makos.com.au> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
Regards Paul
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+paul=amdaat.com.au@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+paul=amdaat.com.au@python.org] On Behalf Of Ralf Hildebrandt Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2010 9:34 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
- Paul Flower <paul@amdaat.com.au>:
Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f48580$@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds
And in your MTA's logs?
-- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebrandt@charite.de | http://www.charite.de
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- Paul Flower <paul@amdaat.com.au>:
Should have put this in the first post.
Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members", ctladdr=<members@makos.com.au> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
And after that? That's goes INTO mailman, and causes the admin mail "there's sth to approve"
Note the timestamp: 20:23:42 + 14.395 < 20:23:58
Please do grep for the messageid: 001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f48580$@com.au
Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) <001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f48580$@com.au> smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds
And in your MTA's logs?
On 6/17/2010 7:13 AM, Paul Flower wrote:
Should have put this in the first post.
Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members", ctladdr=<members@makos.com.au> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
That is the delivery from sendmail to Mailman of the original incoming post. It has nothing directly to do with the delivery of the outgoing post to the 152 recipients.
What is in the sendmail log for the delivery from Mailman? Is Mailman even delivering to this sendmail (is SMTPHOST set to other than 'localhost' in mm_cfg.py)?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
A big thank you to everyone who responded your assistance was greatly appreciated.
The problem has been resolved with the insertion of SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10 into mm_cfg.py
Once again thank you all.
Regards Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:mark@msapiro.net] Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:20 PM To: Paul Flower Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
On 6/17/2010 7:13 AM, Paul Flower wrote:
Should have put this in the first post.
Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members", ctladdr=<members@makos.com.au> (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
That is the delivery from sendmail to Mailman of the original incoming post. It has nothing directly to do with the delivery of the outgoing post to the 152 recipients.
What is in the sendmail log for the delivery from Mailman? Is Mailman even delivering to this sendmail (is SMTPHOST set to other than 'localhost' in mm_cfg.py)?
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac.uk@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac.uk@python.org] On Behalf Of Paul Flower Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:55 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
Problem is this:
I can create a new mailing list no problems and subscribe a handful of users to it and send out email without any dramas but as soon as I import the entire mailing list subscribers (152 members so not big by any stretch of the imagination) nothing goes out. It all appears to work fine but no emails go out.
Immediate diagnostics, as others have suggested, involve looking at the logfiles for your MTA and checking that they have actually been "sent".
It could be that your network provider has a mechanism for side-spooling/delaying/blackholing email subsmissions to large numbers of recipients. So sending to 20 addresses would be OK, but one you start sending to more than that the email is automatically "quarantined" in the event that it may prove to be spam.
Check with your network provider to make sure that there are no "limits" in place that may have delayed your outbound emails. Also check with your local system's mail spool and make sure that the emails aren't all sat in an outbound queue waiting to be cleared/sent.
Good luck, Steff
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