Assembled Wisdom!
I am big fan of mailman and admin three E-lists managed by mailman. These lists are hosted on remote computers.
I am now having the problem: I wish to back up the list of members of a couple of my lists to my home machine. I used to get all the members on one page. Now the members are alphabetized and each initial letter is put on a diffent page. I can still back-up, but it is a laborious process.
Is there a command to exhibit all members on one page? or, better yet, is there a command an administrator can invoke to have the members, if possible with their flags, shipped to my home computer?
TIA for anticipated help!
Alan McConnell
-- Alan McConnell : http://patriot.net/users/alan When the ax came into the woods, the trees all said: "Well, at least the handle is one of us." (Turkish folk warning, from 'The Nation')
2010/11/15 Alan McConnell <alan@patriot.net>:
Assembled Wisdom!
I am big fan of mailman and admin three E-lists managed by mailman. These lists are hosted on remote computers.
I am now having the problem: I wish to back up the list of members of a couple of my lists to my home machine. I used to get all the members on one page. Now the members are alphabetized and each initial letter is put on a diffent page. I can still back-up, but it is a laborious process.
Is there a command to exhibit all members on one page? or, better yet, is there a command an administrator can invoke to have the members, if possible with their flags, shipped to my home computer?
TIA for anticipated help!
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members <listname> you can also use "list_lists --bare" to enumerate the lists
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Hi
On 11/15/2010 07:08 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:
I am now having the problem: I wish to back up the list of members of a couple of my lists to my home machine. I used to get all the members on one page. Now the members are alphabetized and each initial letter is put on a diffent page. I can still back-up, but it is a laborious process.
As list admin you can set "General Options" --> "admin_member_chunksize" to a value bigger than the number of currently subscribed members. With that you get the old behaviour back with all members on one page instead of split into seperate alphabetized chunks.
With this you don't need access to the console.
Kind regards, Christian Mack
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:21:27 -0000, Mailman Admin
<mailman-admin@uni-konstanz.de> wrote:
On 11/15/2010 07:08 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:
I am now having the problem: I wish to back up the list of members of a couple of my lists to my home machine. I used to get all the members on one page. Now the members are alphabetized and each initial letter is put on a diffent page. I can still back-up, but it is a laborious process.
As list admin you can set "General Options" --> "admin_member_chunksize" to a value bigger than the number of currently subscribed members. With that you get the old behaviour back with all members on one page instead of split into seperate alphabetized chunks.
With this you don't need access to the console.
A trick I've used on a hosted mailman that has not been updated to have
the chunk-size option (it's 2.1.9), is to save the list-admin's subscriber
list page at <../mailman/roster/list-name>. This is in two columns
(message and digest) and has extra parentheses where delivery is disabled,
and the addresses are obfuscated ... but nothing that cannot be unravelled
with a few lines of Perl ;-)
regards, Malcolm.
-- Malcolm Austen, Oxfordshire, England
Hi Alan.
Is there a command to exhibit all members on one page? or, better yet, is there a command an administrator can invoke to have the members, if possible with their flags, shipped to my home computer?
I guess I would do a simple admin request email for the lists every now and then, something in the format:
To: <YourListName>_request@<your.domain> Subject: who <YourListPassword>
This sends an email to your account with a list of all currently stored members of the list.
---HTH, ---UlfDunkel
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:58:35 -0000, Ulf Dunkel <dunkel@calamus.net> wrote:
I guess I would do a simple admin request email for the lists
Thanks for the timely reminder ;-)
Even with my 'majordomo with only an email interface' history I do rather
tend to forget that Mailman has an email interface.
Malcolm.
-- Malcolm Austen, Oxfordshire, England
Ulf Dunkel wrote:
Hi Alan.
Is there a command to exhibit all members on one page? or, better yet, is there a command an administrator can invoke to have the members, if possible with their flags, shipped to my home computer?
I guess I would do a simple admin request email for the lists every now and then, [...]
The issue I have with the roster email is that it doesn't tell you whether the user is on nomail or digest. We had an issue last week where one of my users moved a lists from Freelists to Mailman, and we had a lot of complaints of users starting to receive mail again after going nomail, and digest users not being on digest.
Just something to take note of.
Andrew.
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:44:22 -0000, Andrew Hodgson
<andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
The issue I have with the roster email is that it doesn't tell you
whether the user is on nomail or digest.
That's only half true!
The email response gives two lists - for message and digest subscribers -
but does not flag nomail subscribers.
The roster web page I mentioned earlier flags both - two columns for
message and digest plus (italic) for those set to nomail.
Malcolm.
-- Malcolm Austen, Oxfordshire, England
Hi Andrew.
I guess I would do a simple admin request email for the lists every now and then, [...]
The issue I have with the roster email is that it doesn't tell you whether the user is on nomail or digest. We had an issue last week where one of my users moved a lists from Freelists to Mailman, and we had a lot of complaints of users starting to receive mail again after going nomail, and digest users not being on digest.
Just something to take note of.
That's true, but that wasn't the OP's topic. :-)
In fact, I myself do a cronjob on my server and have the list files backup'ed somewhere. But the mail interface is really handy.
---UlfDunkel
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:58:35AM +0100, Ulf Dunkel wrote:
Hi Alan.
Is there a command to exhibit all members on one page? or, better yet, is there a command an administrator can invoke to have the members, if possible with their flags, shipped to my home computer?
I guess I would do a simple admin request email for the lists every now and then, something in the format:
To: <YourListName>_request@<your.domain> Subject: who <YourListPassword>
This sends an email to your account with a list of all currently stored members of the list. I just tried this. It works great! I thank Herr Dunkel as well as the other kind and knowledgeable responders who have weighed in. What a great List!
Best wishes to all,
Alan McConnell, in Silver Spring MD
-- Alan McConnell : http://patriot.net/users/alan We live in a world that is full of mistaken policies, but they are not mistaken for their supporters.(George Stigler)
Hi Alan.
I just tried this. It works great! I thank Herr Dunkel as well as the other kind and knowledgeable responders who have weighed in. What a great List!
Oh, not that seriously, just call me Ulf, please. :-)
By the way: If you're on a Mac, I'd recommend Simon to auto-send emails every now and then. A great monitoring app from Dejal Systems.
http://www.dsd.net/prod/mac/simon.php?lan=en
---UlfDunkel
Ulf Dunkel wrote:
By the way: If you're on a Mac, I'd recommend Simon to auto-send emails every now and then. A great monitoring app from Dejal Systems.
I'm guessing the above was prompted by the delay in Alan's followup reaching the list. This delay was due to a moderation hold and was not a sending delay.
Also, I find it curious that in this entire thread, I saw no mention of the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/aYA9>.
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After corresponding with Alan I also got it to work. The "To" address needs a hyphen (-request) not an underscore (_request). Thanks to both Ulf and Alan for a great tip, Bob
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From: mailman-users-bounces+rmj=aviation.org@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+rmj=aviation.org@python.org] On Behalf Of Alan McConnell Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:56 AM To: Ulf Dunkel Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Backing Up the List of Members
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:58:35AM +0100, Ulf Dunkel wrote:
Hi Alan.
Is there a command to exhibit all members on one page? or, better yet, is there a command an administrator can invoke to have the members, if possible with their flags, shipped to my home computer?
I guess I would do a simple admin request email for the lists every now and then, something in the format:
To: <YourListName>_request@<your.domain> Subject: who <YourListPassword>
This sends an email to your account with a list of all currently stored members of the list. I just tried this. It works great! I thank Herr Dunkel as well as the other kind and knowledgeable responders who have weighed in. What a great List!
Best wishes to all,
Alan McConnell, in Silver Spring MD
-- Alan McConnell : http://patriot.net/users/alan We live in a world that is full of mistaken policies, but they are not mistaken for their supporters.(George Stigler)
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