I have had Mailman (current version v 2.1.27) List Serve working perfectly on my website for several years. On July 5, I made some changes to my DNS settings to satisfy cPanel's Email Deliverability standards, and since then my List Serve no longer works. I don't know if that was the cause, or if I have done something else to break it, and DNS records were just a coincidence.
I now have my main domain of ChristianGays.com <http://christiangays.com/> and sub-domain of mail.christiangays.com <http://mail.christiangays.com/> complying with DKIM and SPF records. All is good now from that aspect, but the List Serve still doesn't work.
When I say it does not work, I can send and receive using my mary@christiangays.com <mailto:mary@christiangays.com> email address, but if I use any of my other email addresses, or if another member writes, the list serve does not forward to the group.
The sent emails can be found in the Archives, but they don't come through to our inboxes.
Log Errors (which I don't understand) show:
[29-Jul-2019 16:45:48 UTC] PHP Deprecated: Methods with the same name as their class will not be constructors in a future version of PHP; wp_mail_from has a deprecated constructor in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/change-wp-mail-from-details/change-mail-from.php on line 105 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Deprecated: Function create_function() is deprecated in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/themes/generatepress_child/functions.php on line 249 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/simple-membership/classes/class.swpm-init-time-tasks.php on line 20
I did not set this up. I know nothing of Python or Mailman, so although I have read your FAQ's, I am really not qualified to implement the instructions.
I hired someone years ago to set this List Serve up for me, but now he is not available. I have since hired two other people, one who specializes in Python to try to figure it out, and neither of them could find the problem.
Since two coders have not been able to fix it, I doubt that giving me instructions of what to look for would help.
I could hire someone else via Freelancer again, but believe it may just be more of a waste of time. I would rather have someone who knows Mailman well, as I assume you all do. I am willing to pay someone to look at the back end of my site to get this working again. Is that possible?
Thank you. Mary Pearson ChristianGays.com <http://christiangays.com/>
On 7/29/19 9:59 AM, Mary Pearson via Mailman-Users wrote:
I have had Mailman (current version v 2.1.27) List Serve working perfectly on my website for several years.
Please see <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>.
On July 5, I made some changes to my DNS settings to satisfy cPanel's Email Deliverability standards, and since then my List Serve no longer works. I don't know if that was the cause, or if I have done something else to break it, and DNS records were just a coincidence.
I now have my main domain of ChristianGays.com <http://christiangays.com/> and sub-domain of mail.christiangays.com <http://mail.christiangays.com/> complying with DKIM and SPF records. All is good now from that aspect, but the List Serve still doesn't work.
When I say it does not work, I can send and receive using my mary@christiangays.com <mailto:mary@christiangays.com> email address, but if I use any of my other email addresses, or if another member writes, the list serve does not forward to the group.
The sent emails can be found in the Archives, but they don't come through to our inboxes.
So there seems to be some issue with outgoing mail delivery from Mailman to external addresses. The mail reaches Mailman because it is archived. Is mail from others delivered to mary@christiangays.com?
Log Errors (which I don't understand) show:
[29-Jul-2019 16:45:48 UTC] PHP Deprecated: Methods with the same name as their class will not be constructors in a future version of PHP; wp_mail_from has a deprecated constructor in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/change-wp-mail-from-details/change-mail-from.php on line 105 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Deprecated: Function create_function() is deprecated in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/themes/generatepress_child/functions.php on line 249 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/simple-membership/classes/class.swpm-init-time-tasks.php on line 20
These PHP errors are irrelevant. They may have something to do with Wordpress?? The logs you want to look at are the MTA (probably Exim in cPanel) logs and Mailman's logs (in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/logs in standard cPanel).
I did not set this up. I know nothing of Python or Mailman, so although I have read your FAQ's, I am really not qualified to implement the instructions.
Does this mean you've seen <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel> and <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.78%20Troubleshooting-%20No%20mail%20going%20out%20to%20lists%20members>?
I hired someone years ago to set this List Serve up for me, but now he is not available. I have since hired two other people, one who specializes in Python to try to figure it out, and neither of them could find the problem.
Since two coders have not been able to fix it, I doubt that giving me instructions of what to look for would help.
I could hire someone else via Freelancer again, but believe it may just be more of a waste of time. I would rather have someone who knows Mailman well, as I assume you all do. I am willing to pay someone to look at the back end of my site to get this working again. Is that possible?
My two rules are "I don't work for money." and "I don't touch your server." and in any case, I'm going to be unavailable for even what support I normally provide via this list for the next 6 weeks.
I hope someone else on this list can help you.
There's also <https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
On 7/29/19 5:45 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 7/29/19 9:59 AM, Mary Pearson via Mailman-Users wrote:
I have had Mailman (current version v 2.1.27) List Serve working perfectly on my website for several years.
Please see <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>.
On July 5, I made some changes to my DNS settings to satisfy cPanel's Email Deliverability standards, and since then my List Serve no longer works. I don't know if that was the cause, or if I have done something else to break it, and DNS records were just a coincidence.
I now have my main domain of ChristianGays.com <http://christiangays.com/> and sub-domain of mail.christiangays.com <http://mail.christiangays.com/> complying with DKIM and SPF records. All is good now from that aspect, but the List Serve still doesn't work.
When I say it does not work, I can send and receive using my mary@christiangays.com <mailto:mary@christiangays.com> email address, but if I use any of my other email addresses, or if another member writes, the list serve does not forward to the group.
The sent emails can be found in the Archives, but they don't come through to our inboxes.
So there seems to be some issue with outgoing mail delivery from Mailman to external addresses. The mail reaches Mailman because it is archived. Is mail from others delivered to mary@christiangays.com?
Log Errors (which I don't understand) show:
[29-Jul-2019 16:45:48 UTC] PHP Deprecated: Methods with the same name as their class will not be constructors in a future version of PHP; wp_mail_from has a deprecated constructor in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/change-wp-mail-from-details/change-mail-from.php on line 105 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Deprecated: Function create_function() is deprecated in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/themes/generatepress_child/functions.php on line 249 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/simple-membership/classes/class.swpm-init-time-tasks.php on line 20
These PHP errors are irrelevant. They may have something to do with Wordpress?? The logs you want to look at are the MTA (probably Exim in cPanel) logs and Mailman's logs (in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/logs in standard cPanel).
I did not set this up. I know nothing of Python or Mailman, so although I have read your FAQ's, I am really not qualified to implement the instructions.
Does this mean you've seen <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel> and <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.78%20Troubleshooting-%20No%20mail%20going%20out%20to%20lists%20members>?
I hired someone years ago to set this List Serve up for me, but now he is not available. I have since hired two other people, one who specializes in Python to try to figure it out, and neither of them could find the problem.
Since two coders have not been able to fix it, I doubt that giving me instructions of what to look for would help.
I could hire someone else via Freelancer again, but believe it may just be more of a waste of time. I would rather have someone who knows Mailman well, as I assume you all do. I am willing to pay someone to look at the back end of my site to get this working again. Is that possible?
My two rules are "I don't work for money." and "I don't touch your server." and in any case, I'm going to be unavailable for even what support I normally provide via this list for the next 6 weeks.
I hope someone else on this list can help you.
There's also <https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
Thank you everyone for your input. A dear gentleman from cPanel tech support was able to figure it out for me and it is now working.
Mary
On Jul 29, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> wrote:
On 7/29/19 9:59 AM, Mary Pearson via Mailman-Users wrote:
I have had Mailman (current version v 2.1.27) List Serve working perfectly on my website for several years.
Please see <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>.
On July 5, I made some changes to my DNS settings to satisfy cPanel's Email Deliverability standards, and since then my List Serve no longer works. I don't know if that was the cause, or if I have done something else to break it, and DNS records were just a coincidence.
I now have my main domain of ChristianGays.com <http://christiangays.com/> and sub-domain of mail.christiangays.com <http://mail.christiangays.com/> complying with DKIM and SPF records. All is good now from that aspect, but the List Serve still doesn't work.
When I say it does not work, I can send and receive using my mary@christiangays.com <mailto:mary@christiangays.com> email address, but if I use any of my other email addresses, or if another member writes, the list serve does not forward to the group.
The sent emails can be found in the Archives, but they don't come through to our inboxes.
So there seems to be some issue with outgoing mail delivery from Mailman to external addresses. The mail reaches Mailman because it is archived. Is mail from others delivered to mary@christiangays.com?
Log Errors (which I don't understand) show:
[29-Jul-2019 16:45:48 UTC] PHP Deprecated: Methods with the same name as their class will not be constructors in a future version of PHP; wp_mail_from has a deprecated constructor in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/change-wp-mail-from-details/change-mail-from.php on line 105 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Deprecated: Function create_function() is deprecated in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/themes/generatepress_child/functions.php on line 249 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/simple-membership/classes/class.swpm-init-time-tasks.php on line 20
These PHP errors are irrelevant. They may have something to do with Wordpress?? The logs you want to look at are the MTA (probably Exim in cPanel) logs and Mailman's logs (in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/logs in standard cPanel).
I did not set this up. I know nothing of Python or Mailman, so although I have read your FAQ's, I am really not qualified to implement the instructions.
Does this mean you've seen <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel> and <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.78%20Troubleshooting-%20No%20mail%20going%20out%20to%20lists%20members>?
I hired someone years ago to set this List Serve up for me, but now he is not available. I have since hired two other people, one who specializes in Python to try to figure it out, and neither of them could find the problem.
Since two coders have not been able to fix it, I doubt that giving me instructions of what to look for would help.
I could hire someone else via Freelancer again, but believe it may just be more of a waste of time. I would rather have someone who knows Mailman well, as I assume you all do. I am willing to pay someone to look at the back end of my site to get this working again. Is that possible?
My two rules are "I don't work for money." and "I don't touch your server." and in any case, I'm going to be unavailable for even what support I normally provide via this list for the next 6 weeks.
I hope someone else on this list can help you.
There's also <https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services>.
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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On 7/29/19 5:45 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
I hope someone else on this list can help you.
There's also <https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services>.
Sorry for the immediately prior premature send.
What I meant to add here is this is almost certainly not a Mailman issue. I can't be certain without seeing Mailman's logs, but it seems highly likely that Mailman is continuing to deliver outgoing mail to the MTA (Exim) via SMTP to localhost port 25. The issue is most likely in Exim and whatever you did there to implement DKIM signing.
And now I see the above is moot, but since I already wrote it ...
-- Mark Sapiro <mark@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
At Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:59:31 -0400 Mary Pearson <ma3ry@icloud.com> wrote:
I have had Mailman (current version v 2.1.27) List Serve working perfectly on my website for several years. On July 5, I made some changes to my DNS settings to satisfy cPanel's Email Deliverability standards, and since then my List Serve no longer works. I don't know if that was the cause, or if I have done something else to break it, and DNS records were just a coincidence.
I now have my main domain of ChristianGays.com <http://christiangays.com/> and sub-domain of mail.christiangays.com <http://mail.christiangays.com/> complying with DKIM and SPF records. All is good now from that aspect, but the List Serve still doesn't work.
When I say it does not work, I can send and receive using my mary@christiangays.com <mailto:mary@christiangays.com> email address, but if I use any of my other email addresses, or if another member writes, the list serve does not forward to the group.
The sent emails can be found in the Archives, but they don't come through to our inboxes.
Log Errors (which I don't understand) show:
[29-Jul-2019 16:45:48 UTC] PHP Deprecated: Methods with the same name as their class will not be constructors in a future version of PHP; wp_mail_from has a deprecated constructor in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/change-wp-mail-from-details/change-mail-from.php on line 105 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Deprecated: Function create_function() is deprecated in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/themes/generatepress_child/functions.php on line 249 [29-Jul-2019 12:45:48 America/Toronto] PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in /home/mary/public_html/mary-content/plugins/simple-membership/classes/class.swpm-init-time-tasks.php on line 20
These are PHP messages that seem to relate to a WordPress plugin. Nothing to do with Mailman, which is written in Python.
Your problems sound like a problem with the Mailman => outbound mail server interface -- something is misconfigured there. Do you know what you are using for a mail server? Sendmail? Postfix? Something else? What operating system is the server itself running? CentOS 6, 7? Ubuntu? Something else?
I did not set this up. I know nothing of Python or Mailman, so although I have read your FAQ's, I am really not qualified to implement the instructions.
I hired someone years ago to set this List Serve up for me, but now he is not available. I have since hired two other people, one who specializes in Python to try to figure it out, and neither of them could find the problem.
Since two coders have not been able to fix it, I doubt that giving me instructions of what to look for would help.
I could hire someone else via Freelancer again, but believe it may just be more of a waste of time. I would rather have someone who knows Mailman well, as I assume you all do. I am willing to pay someone to look at the back end of my site to get this working again. Is that possible?
Thank you. Mary Pearson ChristianGays.com <http://christiangays.com/>
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