Paul,

I couldn't agree with you more. But, as I exchange email with a minimum wage worker at excite that is doing what he was told to do (decision from someone that hasn't got a clue) I still have people complaining. Since people can still follow the link in the email is there a short term fix that I can implement here until I can get this corrected with excite.

The worse art of this is the fact that they gave no error back that this is what was happening. Usually if you get blacklisted for spam the error msg would say relying denied or some other useful msg to address the issue. This one did not. I happened on it by mistake. Then 2 + 2 added up about excite users complaining. So I would bet this is happening to every mailman installation that tries to send a confirmation email to excite.

Any Ideas? Help?

Swift kick in the butt for the obvious?

I am not a programmer and it would be useless for me to start opening files trying to track down the line of code that adds that as the subject so I can modify it. Not to mention what to modify it too.

Joe

-----Original Message----- From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul@thcwd.com] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:13 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line Length Considered Spam

jsmith wrote:

Excite is blocking any subject that has more than 22 characters due to it looking like commercial spam. I would bet that other ISP's will be or have already started subject line filtering on the length as well.

  I am assuming you mean 22 consecutive characters without a 

break? The subject you gave your post would violate a 22 character limit.

  Even at 22 consecutive I think this is a rather short sighted,

over the top and totally worthless way to try and stop spam. There are a lot of systems that depend on subject lines with long confirmation codes, including some spam programs! I would think an ISP that breaks this many systems is going to lose some customers.

<>< Paul

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