Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman FAQ Wizard
On Wed, 1 May 2002 01:20:49 +0200 Norbert Bollow <nb@thinkcoach.com> wrote:
Alternatively, I could set up a separate FAQ Wizard for (less technical) list manager questions at listowner.org ... would this be desirable?
Why not simply create a less technical section in the current FAQ?
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J C Lawrence
---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
claw@kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh?
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.
That would be awesome to have a FAQ and a HOW-TO - even for basic stuff. Without formal training and working with it a lot installing and configuring 'nix software is anything but straightforward, though I will say I really like the mailman software.
I created klug again, and the cgi pages look fine from a browser, with all the right goodies for the domain and email addresses - with the exception that the mail isn't going through - I get "unknown user" error. Was I to create an account?
because there IS no account created with the ./newlist script, I wonder if the following section of the FAQ is applicable:
Q. What if I get "document contains no data" from the web server, or mail isn't getting delivered, or I see "Premature end of script headers" or "Mailman CGI error!!!" A. The most likely cause of this is that the GID that is compiled into the C wrappers does not match the GID that your Web server invokes CGI scripts with. Note that a similar error could occur if your mail system invokes filter programs under a GID that does not match the one compiled into the C mail wrapper.
To fix this you will need to re-configure Mailman using the --with-cgi-gid and --with-mail-gid options. See the INSTALL file for details.
if so, I don't know how to determin the CGI GID and MAIL GID other than to look in the User manager for those groups. A look just now shows no group by the name of "cgi" and the group "mail" with one member: "mail". There is probably a command-line option to show the GID for a group, but the info is not displayed in the Gnome User manager.
I suppose you all would just laugh at me if I suggested a straightforward GUI installer and manager that would run in Gnome/KDE.
Thanks for the help, I'm close...
-----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-admin@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-admin@python.org] On Behalf Of J C Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:22 PM To: Norbert Bollow Cc: mhnoyes@users.sourceforge.net; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman FAQ Wizard
On Wed, 1 May 2002 01:20:49 +0200 Norbert Bollow <nb@thinkcoach.com> wrote:
Alternatively, I could set up a separate FAQ Wizard for (less technical) list manager questions at listowner.org ... would this be desirable?
Why not simply create a less technical section in the current FAQ?
--
J C Lawrence
---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
claw@kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh?
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu> wrote:
Alternatively, I could set up a separate FAQ Wizard for (less technical) list manager questions at listowner.org ... would this be desirable?
Why not simply create a less technical section in the current FAQ?
I think that listowners and moderators deserve more attention than just a single section in an FAQ which is otherwise full of highly technical information that is irrelevant to them.
Since there is now a separate mailing list at http://listowner.org for the les technical discussions, it would make sense for that mailing list to have its own FAQ.
Putting this on listowner.org allows it to be part of the same "everyhting is under GNU Free Documentation License" policy that applies also to postings to the Mailman ListOwners mailing list.
I'm now convinced that I want to have such an FAQ wizard on listowner.org and I've set it up at http://listowner.org/faq
Contributions are of course most welcome :-)
I have included a prominent link to the existing (very technical) Mailman FAQ; as soon as there is some significant information in the new FAQ, I'll add a link to it from the current Mailman FAQ.
Greetings, Norbert.
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On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 02:37, Norbert Bollow wrote:
J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu> wrote:
Alternatively, I could set up a separate FAQ Wizard for (less technical) list manager questions at listowner.org ... would this be desirable?
Why not simply create a less technical section in the current FAQ?
- I think that listowners and moderators deserve more attention than just a single section in an FAQ which is otherwise full of highly technical information that is irrelevant to them.
Norbert, I believe the information in the current FAQ while not directly related to list managers is beneficial to them. If you're not aware of the limitations/features available to site admins it makes it very hard to ask them to correct problems.
- Since there is now a separate mailing list at http://listowner.org for the les technical discussions, it would make sense for that mailing list to have its own FAQ.
In my opinion list manager questions are on topic here, and there is no need for a new list. Of course you're free to to what you feel is best.
-- Mike Noyes <mhnoyes@users.sourceforge.net> http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 20:22, J C Lawrence wrote:
On Wed, 1 May 2002 01:20:49 +0200 Norbert Bollow <nb@thinkcoach.com> wrote:
Alternatively, I could set up a separate FAQ Wizard for (less technical) list manager questions at listowner.org ... would this be desirable?
Why not simply create a less technical section in the current FAQ?
JC, That's what I'd like to see, and it doesn't need to be less technical. It just needs to address list manager questions that don't have site admin privileges.
-- Mike Noyes <mhnoyes@users.sourceforge.net> http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/
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