On 30/06/2020 16:54, Piper Thunstrom wrote:
I do not. We must, as a community, examine our prejudices and aim to be welcoming or we're going to see a split in Python much worse than Py2 -> Py3.
Curiously I am yet to see any acknowledgement that the change itself may be detrimental to neuro-atypical people, of whom there are a fair number in the wider Python community (I've taught a number of them Python, so I know that to be true). I didn't consider the point before Steven and Stephen raised it -- like most people, I don't automatically scan for prejudices except the ones I know I am prone to -- but it does fit with what I know of the Aspergers kids I've met. The fundamental issue is this: your politics are not my politics. Keara's politics are not my politics. I don't know either of you well enough, but I strongly suspect that your politics and Keara's politics are not the same either. That's a perfectly natural state of affairs for human beings. The commit message going with the (mild) relaxation of writing standards is a political statement. I hope there's no argument about that. That sets a precedent. Unless the Steering Committee pronounce otherwise (and I hope they do), it is now OK to publish political statements as part of a commit message, presuming they can be contorted to relevance somehow (and that's usually not hard). I guarantee you won't like some of those message, _but the precedent is being set._ Just because a statement is controversial doesn't mean it can't be accepted. Ultimately, putting political statements in non-political places is divisive. This whole exercise is a demonstration of that divisiveness. That's why I don't think they should be allowed in commit messages, even when I agree with them. And that's why I think the commit message in question should be amended ASAP. -- Rhodri James *-* Kynesim Ltd