On Sat, Jul 26, 2003, Alex Martelli wrote:
On Saturday 26 July 2003 18:45, Aahz wrote:
Given that the IDLE bug doesn't affect Apple (they don't ship Python with Tkinter), I suggest that we not run around like chickens to fix the IDLE bug, but plan on a 2.3.1 release by end of August.
What I'd recommend doing for now is putting a big note on the 2.3 download page (not on the front page as Anna suggests).
Maybe a reasonable compromise -- download page, "what's new", and assorted README files. Updating those won't break anything. after all.
Fine by me.
Still, passing errors off silently when they've not been explicitly silenced IS a bug, as well as a violation of the Python Zen -- and that seems to be what IDLE is currently doing. Documenting the bug is better than nothing, but putting out a 2.3 release with such a known bug "because that bug won't affect Apple" (with its whopping, what, 5% of the market vs Microsoft's 90%+...?) still leaves me a bit perplexed. Decision up to the release managers, of course, but as for me personally I'd like 2.3 to have a bit more than just these updates to python.org & informal docfiles to make the user aware that [a] socket bugs may be impeding his use of IDLE AND [b] IDLE is NOT trying to send information out surreptitiously. Not fixing bugs (that might be too hard to do right now for 2.3 and missing 2.3's deadline is just not an option) but making sure "cards are on the table"...
My point is that by putting a note on the download page, it's likely that few people will upgrade until 2.3.1 comes out, particularly if they know they only need to wait a month. It's doubtful that any embedded systems other than Apple will use 2.3. Alex, you've got commit privs and you're a decent writer ;-), so why don't you go ahead and make the changes to the README and What's New files (other than IDLE's README, which Kurt will handle). If Barry doesn't like the changes, he can revert them. Barry or I will handle the download page. -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ This is Python. We don't care much about theory, except where it intersects with useful practice. --Aahz