www/svn python.org status update
The following sites are up again on a new machine, but cannot be updated through SVN hooks or whatever mechanism: www.python.org docs.python.org www.jython.org planet.python.org planet.jython.org svn.python.org was deliberately not brought up again. The backups were a few hours behind and missing the ~10 most recent commits. Not disastrous, but it could probably mess up people's SVN trees, so after some IRC discussion, the decision was to wait until the original disks are available again. That will probably not occur until Monday, maybe Tuesday. I've disabled donations to the PSF through credit cards, which pointed to a CGI script that doesn't currently work; PayPal donations still work. Do we want to make any edits to the 3.1 or 3.0 pages about the I/O bug? I can do that manually if someone will provide the text and/or a patch to put up. Unfortunately without SVN we probably can't cut a new 3.1 release, unless Benjamin or someone has a really up-to-date copy of the Mercurial tree and wants to work from that. --amk
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 22:22, A.M. Kuchling<amk@amk.ca> wrote:
svn.python.org was deliberately not brought up again. The backups were a few hours behind and missing the ~10 most recent commits. Not disastrous, but it could probably mess up people's SVN trees, so after some IRC discussion, the decision was to wait until the original disks are available again. That will probably not occur until Monday, maybe Tuesday.
What's the last revision supposed to be? I keep a somewhat regularly updated full sync of the Python repo. Cheers, Dirkjan
The following sites are up again on a new machine
I'd like to thank the people who have helped getting the temporary machine up: Thomas Wouters spent much of his day at XS4ALL, where he was helped by Gerben Schepers (who also provided the hardware). Sean Reifschneider provided the backups (from the system at tummy.com which keeps backups of all python.org machines). Andrew Kuchling put the backup back into the places to bring the system into its current state. The failure of the old system was caused by the RAID controller; the disks themselves should still be intact. Unfortunately, the RAID controller keeps its configuration on the controller (not on the disks), so it is unclear still whether the replacement will be able to recognize the RAID array. Regards, Martin
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 22:22, A.M. Kuchling <amk@amk.ca> wrote:
The following sites are up again on a new machine, but cannot be updated through SVN hooks or whatever mechanism:
www.python.org docs.python.org www.jython.org planet.python.org planet.jython.org
svn.python.org was deliberately not brought up again. The backups were a few hours behind and missing the ~10 most recent commits. Not disastrous, but it could probably mess up people's SVN trees, so after some IRC discussion, the decision was to wait until the original disks are available again. That will probably not occur until Monday, maybe Tuesday.
I'm still waiting on a replacement controller, so it wasn't to be today. Hopefully tomorrow, if the hardware supplier has one in stock. Still no news on whether we have any chance at all on getting the old data back. -- Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org> Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature file to help me spread!
On approximately 8/10/2009 12:12 PM, came the following characters from the keyboard of Thomas Wouters:
I'm still waiting on a replacement controller, so it wasn't to be today. Hopefully tomorrow, if the hardware supplier has one in stock. Still no news on whether we have any chance at all on getting the old data back.
Sadly, redundant hardware controlled by non-redundant hardware, configured to be redundant without a backup of that configuration, isn't all that reliable :( It is hard to get redundancy correct and complete, so you can't just hear the word "RAID" and conclude that it is reliable, or fully redundant, without proper system management. That's why I still recommend RAID 0 with appropriate backup procedures, or RAID 1... but only if the RAID 1 is operable by removing the RAID controller, and attaching the disks to regular controllers, and having them be readable... sadly, many RAID 1 configurations do not permit that. -- Glenn -- http://nevcal.com/ =========================== A protocol is complete when there is nothing left to remove. -- Stuart Cheshire, Apple Computer, regarding Zero Configuration Networking
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:12, Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 22:22, A.M. Kuchling <amk@amk.ca> wrote:
The following sites are up again on a new machine, but cannot be updated through SVN hooks or whatever mechanism:
www.python.org docs.python.org www.jython.org planet.python.org planet.jython.org
svn.python.org was deliberately not brought up again. The backups were a few hours behind and missing the ~10 most recent commits. Not disastrous, but it could probably mess up people's SVN trees, so after some IRC discussion, the decision was to wait until the original disks are available again. That will probably not occur until Monday, maybe Tuesday.
I'm still waiting on a replacement controller, so it wasn't to be today. Hopefully tomorrow, if the hardware supplier has one in stock. Still no news on whether we have any chance at all on getting the old data back.
The new card had to be ordered (and I couldn't find any other place that had them in stock) bit it should arrive tomorrow or thursday. On the plus side, Martin found out there should be no problem with just inserting the card and having it detect the RAID, so as long as the dying card didn't write garbage to the disks we should be back up and running quite fast. -- Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org> Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature file to help me spread!
I replaced the RAID controller, the old data was still intact, so I brought the temporary machine down and the new machine up. Everything seems to work just fine, so happy svn-up'ing. (I will reboot mail.python.org for a few minutes, to check its serial console configuration, but that shouldn't affect anyone.) On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:26, Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:12, Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 22:22, A.M. Kuchling <amk@amk.ca> wrote:
The following sites are up again on a new machine, but cannot be updated through SVN hooks or whatever mechanism:
www.python.org docs.python.org www.jython.org planet.python.org planet.jython.org
svn.python.org was deliberately not brought up again. The backups were a few hours behind and missing the ~10 most recent commits. Not disastrous, but it could probably mess up people's SVN trees, so after some IRC discussion, the decision was to wait until the original disks are available again. That will probably not occur until Monday, maybe Tuesday.
I'm still waiting on a replacement controller, so it wasn't to be today. Hopefully tomorrow, if the hardware supplier has one in stock. Still no news on whether we have any chance at all on getting the old data back.
The new card had to be ordered (and I couldn't find any other place that had them in stock) bit it should arrive tomorrow or thursday. On the plus side, Martin found out there should be no problem with just inserting the card and having it detect the RAID, so as long as the dying card didn't write garbage to the disks we should be back up and running quite fast.
-- Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org>
Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature file to help me spread!
-- Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org> Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature file to help me spread!
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Thomas Wouters<thomas@python.org> wrote:
I replaced the RAID controller, the old data was still intact, so I brought the temporary machine down and the new machine up. Everything seems to work just fine, so happy svn-up'ing. (I will reboot mail.python.org for a few minutes, to check its serial console configuration, but that shouldn't affect anyone.)
Yay! Thanks for your dedicated work! -gps
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:26, Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:12, Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 22:22, A.M. Kuchling <amk@amk.ca> wrote:
The following sites are up again on a new machine, but cannot be updated through SVN hooks or whatever mechanism:
www.python.org docs.python.org www.jython.org planet.python.org planet.jython.org
svn.python.org was deliberately not brought up again. The backups were a few hours behind and missing the ~10 most recent commits. Not disastrous, but it could probably mess up people's SVN trees, so after some IRC discussion, the decision was to wait until the original disks are available again. That will probably not occur until Monday, maybe Tuesday.
I'm still waiting on a replacement controller, so it wasn't to be today. Hopefully tomorrow, if the hardware supplier has one in stock. Still no news on whether we have any chance at all on getting the old data back.
The new card had to be ordered (and I couldn't find any other place that had them in stock) bit it should arrive tomorrow or thursday. On the plus side, Martin found out there should be no problem with just inserting the card and having it detect the RAID, so as long as the dying card didn't write garbage to the disks we should be back up and running quite fast. -- Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org>
Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature file to help me spread!
-- Thomas Wouters <thomas@python.org>
Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature file to help me spread!
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"A.M. Kuchling" <amk@amk.ca> writes:
The following sites are up again on a new machine, but cannot be updated through SVN hooks or whatever mechanism:
www.python.org docs.python.org www.jython.org planet.python.org planet.jython.org
I don't see ‘lists.python.org’ there. Is it affected? I ask because I haven't seen any messages reach the ‘comp.lang.python’ Usenet group since this report. Is that related? -- \ “The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more | `\ to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a | _o__) sober one.” —George Bernard Shaw | Ben Finney
On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
"A.M. Kuchling" <amk@amk.ca> writes:
The following sites are up again on a new machine, but cannot be updated through SVN hooks or whatever mechanism:
www.python.org docs.python.org www.jython.org planet.python.org planet.jython.org
I don't see ‘lists.python.org’ there. Is it affected?
It shouldn't be. mail.python.org is a different machine.
I ask because I haven't seen any messages reach the ‘comp.lang.python’ Usenet group since this report. Is that related?
Hmm, if you're getting this message then mailing lists should be working. I don't know what if anything might be wrong with the gateway. Are both directions affected or only one way? -Barry
Wasn't there a problem with the spam filter recently? On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Barry Warsaw<barry@python.org> wrote:
On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
"A.M. Kuchling" <amk@amk.ca> writes:
The following sites are up again on a new machine, but cannot be updated through SVN hooks or whatever mechanism:
www.python.org docs.python.org www.jython.org planet.python.org planet.jython.org
I don't see ‘lists.python.org’ there. Is it affected?
It shouldn't be. mail.python.org is a different machine.
I ask because I haven't seen any messages reach the ‘comp.lang.python’ Usenet group since this report. Is that related?
Hmm, if you're getting this message then mailing lists should be working. I don't know what if anything might be wrong with the gateway. Are both directions affected or only one way?
-Barry
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Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org> writes:
On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
I ask because I haven't seen any messages reach the ‘comp.lang.python’ Usenet group since this report. Is that related?
Hmm, if you're getting this message then mailing lists should be working. I don't know what if anything might be wrong with the gateway. Are both directions affected or only one way?
It seems to be a problem specific to my Usenet provider. Thanks for the ongoing work to restore services. -- \ “A hundred times every day I remind myself that […] I must | `\ exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have | _o__) received and am still receiving” —Albert Einstein | Ben Finney
participants (9)
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"Martin v. Löwis" -
A.M. Kuchling -
Barry Warsaw -
Ben Finney -
Dirkjan Ochtman -
Glenn Linderman -
Gregory P. Smith -
Guido van Rossum -
Thomas Wouters