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Re: [Mailman-Users] {Disarmed} Re: importing archived Maildir email lists into Mailman lists archives

by [IDIS Technical Secretariat] Ricardo Rodríguez

Thanks for the answer! Please, read below... On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 08/31/2015 05:58 AM, [IDIS Technical Secretariat] Ricardo Rodríguez > wrote: > > > > This has been more or less my entry point to this issue. Perhaps I've > > not been able to explain the issue correctly or I'm missing something. > > What I'm looking to move into mbox is a set of archives of Maildir > > mailing lists. > > > Why do you refer to these archives as being of Maildir mailing lists? > What is the actual software that created them. > > The original sentence I got from the provider said, translated to English: the format is vpopmail (qmail - courier). I must recognise that I'm not able to reconstruct the pathway that has led me to say that we were using Maildir. Ezmlm was the actual software that created that lists. Both, regular maildir account subfolders and ezmlm subfolders are stored in the same folder in the archives structure. I think this was the reason why I interpreted all of them are Maildir subfolders. > Those archives don't contain new, cur and tmp folders all > > the scripts I've spotted at looked for. This is the structure of each > > archived email list folder I have here... > > > > Ricardo-Rodriguezs-Mac-Pro:r.users rrodriguez$ ls > > Log bounce digissue headerremove lock > mod outlocal remote > > allow bouncer dignum indexed > lockbounce modsub owner subscribers > > archive config editor inlocal > mailinglist num prefix text > > archived digest headeradd key manager > outhost public tstdig > > > > > > Within /archive, there are two folders, 0 and 1, with a number of files, > > each of them containing one message, and an index file. > > > This looks vaguely like Maildir, except Maildir has no index file. What > is in the index file(s)? What is the difference between 0 and 1? Do they > each contain some complete (including all headers) messages, i.e. each > contains a set of messages that combined are all the messages, or does > one of them contain message headers and the other bodies, or does one > contain messages and the other contain metadata about the messages? > Here you can access to the whole structure of one of the subfolders... http://datasource.idisantiago.es/r.users/ Here the indexes of subfolders 0 and 1 (ISO Latin 1 encoding required for a correct rendering of all the characters)... http://datasource.idisantiago.es/r.users/archive/0/index http://datasource.idisantiago.es/r.users/archive/1/index It looks like each subfolder in the row within /archive holds a maximum of 100 messages numbered from 0 to 99. Each file within subfolders 0 and 1 contains a complete message, including attachments (this is a guess, as files' size ranges from few Kbs to several Mbs). > > > > Please, does this made sense for you? Am I completely lost? How could I > > deal with this "archives" to move them to mbox files and get them > > imported our brand new Mailman server? > > > You just need to add a *nix From_ separator to the beginning of each > complete message and concatenate them. > > If you can show me what's actually in some of those files, I could > The link above gives access to a whole subfolder! > possibly create a conversion script for you. > > It could be as simple as something like > > cat archives/0/* archives/1/* > mbox > > except for the index files, but probably not. > I founded this... [Mailman-Users] Moving to mailman from ezmlm https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-November/032591.html [Mailman-Users] Migrate from EZMLM to Mailman https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2012-November/074408.html But I'm afraid I have been not able to find any message with more detailed information. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > Once again: thank you for your help and, please, accept my apologies if I'm not able to provide accurate and clear information about the issue: at least for me, it is by no means easy to sail this sea plenty of different standards! All the best, Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez Research Management and Promotion Technician Technical Secretariat Health Research Institute of Santiago de Compostela (IDIS) http://www.idisantiago.es

9 years, 3 months

Re: [Mailman-Users] ezmlm to mailman

by Heather Madrone

At 10:47 AM +0200 5/10/05, cbaegert(a)eurosv.net wrote: >Hi, >Le mardi 10 Mai 2005 07:53, vous avez écrit : >> I suspect that your mbox file is not in proper mbox format. > >Well, the messages are separated by a "\nFrom :"... Is there any other rule >about the mbox format? There can be, particularly if you are going from a system that adds magic characters to the file. You might need to translate end-of-line characters and/or end-of-file characters. You might also need to force certain header fields into a particular canonical form, make sure that there are line breaks at the end of each message, and make sure that there's a blank line between header and body. I moved a bunch of legacy mailboxes that were originally from 1992 SCO Unix through 1995-2002 Eudora on Windows to Eudora on Mac OS X and had to make several adjustments to get the Mac Eudora to accept them. One of the changes was that the separating From headers needed to have valid date and time stamps: /* From ???@??? Mon May 09 23:30:45 2005 */ Many of the older mail messages had a mock-up null date in that space, causing the Mac's Eudora to barf. Since mailboxes are just text files, you ought to be able to go in and look at both the mailbox files that you're importing and the ones that Mailman creates. Make yours look like the ones that Mailman creates, and you ought to be in business. -- Heather Madrone <heather(a)madrone.com> The Home-Ed List: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/helist.html You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think.

19 years, 7 months

Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite?

by David Piniella

Thanks for your reply, sorry if I was not clear, I'm specifically trying to not have the list address in the from address, nor the original sender's address say my list is party-news(a)lists.sample.org and the mail comes from user sam(a)lists.sample.org, i'd like the From: field to be "Party News <partynews(a)sample.org>" instead of the list address or sam(a)lists.sample.org. I tried anonymous_list, but that's not what I'm looking for. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> To: David Piniella <davidpiniella(a)yahoo.com>; mailman-users(a)python.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:45:53 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite? David Piniella wrote: >I'm looking to replace an ezmlm server with mailman and have installed mailman 2.1.9-7 on a debian server; lists work but I have a question: > >Is there an easy way to rewrite the From: address field? I have a list that is used as announce-only and would like it to appear to come from a non-list address (e.g., list is jobs(a)lists.domain.tld and I would like the email to appear as from jobs(a)domain.tld). Reply-To: is good, but not what I'm looking for. The ezmlm analogue is creating a list using the -3 switch to rewrite the address. I'm not sure what you're asking. If you want to know how to put the list address in From:, set General Options->anonymous_list to Yes. If you want to know how to change the domain of this address, put the desired domain in General Options->host_name. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

16 years, 5 months

Digest Problems

by James A. Harrod

Hello Group- I am a new administrator for a Mailman list which has been set up at the University of California, Irvine, to run a jazz discussion list. The original list ran using ezmlm software, but the server was hacked severely in January. Attempts to get ezmlm running again were unsuccessful and the programmer responsible for setting us up chose to go with Mailman -- which I find to be an excellent alternative, much more user friendly with great features like the web interface and automatic archiving of messages. Some of our members who are subscribed in the digest mode are having problems. Here is a sample complaint: "Is anyone else experiencing the inconvenience of having to download the jwc digest and then having to unzip the mime coded attachment to be downloaded? One winds up with a series individual files, each of which has to be opened to read the individual message. I think possibly this may happening only to AOL users. It started after we came back to the UCI system a few days ago." and another non aol user: "I subscribed to the digest, but rather than getting a packet of messages, I get a bundle of attachments. If I want to read the messages, I have to open the attachments one by one, hardly the convenience a digest should produce. What am I doing wrong?" I double checked and the digest preference is set to "plain text", and not mime. I have also noticed that the same message received as an individual post appears in the digest mode with lots of html type code cluttering the message. Does this stem from the individual sending the message and how they have their email software configured? Regards- Jim Harrod Jazz West Coast List Moderator

22 years, 10 months

Just archives

by David Dyer-Bennet

I've got a mailing list running successfully in Mailman, formerly on my own server, now being hosted at Dreamhost. A peculiarity of their implementation is that I don't have access to the archive files or any of the other mailman-specific directories; or apparently to the executables either (I haven't looked really hard, or asked; it's not key to my question). I've also got old archives of the mailing list, both old ezmlm archives, and from a more recent incarnation a large mbox file collected by a user (and a good thing, since I managed to lose my copy in a disk meltdown). What I think I want to do is leave the new/current mailing list, and its archives, alone, and put up the old archives in my web space. (A more aggressive approach would be to try to attach my old archives to the beginning of the new/current archive, so everything would be in one place. That would require a lot of reliance on Dreamhost tech support, since I don't have access to those files/directories, and they might not even be willing to do it.) So, what executables and configuration settings are key to this? I need to run "arch", it looks like, and have a mailing list configured that will define where it puts the resulting HTML files. Maybe also stuff to make the page templates match the rest of the website (I did that for the ezmlm-cgi version). And I only have to do this once (just to convert the old archives, static, no more messages). Might I be better off approaching this via pipermail? I'm not really clear, but I think that's a library for message archive handling, which mailman uses for its archives? So it might have all the parts of what I need, and maybe give me more freedom to write page layouts? -- David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/> RKBA: <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/> Pics: <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/> Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>

18 years, 4 months

Re: [Mailman-Users] suggestion: rework bounce handling code

by Marc MERLIN

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 02:08:07PM -0800, alex wetmore wrote: > The current code turns on the "disable mail delivery" flag for the > user or unsubscribes them. > > I'd prefer to see two disable mail delivery flags, one that is > set/unset by the user (for people who just want to read via the > archives) and one that is set by the bounce logic, and unset by the > user. I've already asked for that, you wish has already been granted in mailman-cvs (upcoming 2.1) :-) (thanks Barry) > I'd like this because one of the biggest admin tasks that I have now > is walking through re-enabling people's mail delivery and explaining > to them why they are no longer getting list mail. With two flags I > could write a script which went through the lists every night and sent > an email to everyone who had the "bounced - disabled" flag set. This > email could tell them how to fix their mail delivery, and tell them > why it occured in the first place. I have my lists setup to kick people off the list, much easier that way :-) (but then I am a BOFH) Anyway, yes, you'll be able to do that. > This is one thing that EzMLM handles more nicely that mailman. When > email bounces it sends the subscriber a bounce report and tells them > how to get back the email that they've missed. > Has this logic changed at all in 2.1? Mailman cvs now supports VERP, which will give you the accurate bounce processing that EzMLM does (if you want it, the price to pay is additional load). Mailman however does not keep track of which messages you have not received if you were bouncing. Between you and me, if your mail was bouncing, you can go read the archives or download an archive mailbox and add that to your list folder. Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f(a)merlins.org for PGP key

22 years, 9 months

Re: [Mailman-Users] webmail issues

by Jon Carnes

You will need to either move to Mailman v2.1 (in alpha) or use ezmlm. Webumake requires each message to be sent individually and the header to be set to the exact individual. That functionality is an option in version 2.1 of Mailman, and a built-in "feature" of ezmlm. That's fine but it really removes a great deal of functionality from Mailman. Part of Mailman's existing optimizations is that it will send one email to a mailserver that will go to many individuals on that mailserver. As an example, if you have 400 people from aol on your list, Mailman will only send out 8 messages to aol's mailservers and let aol break those messages out to each individual. This is much more efficient than sending 400 individual emails. I'm curious though about the functionality of Webumake. Is it actually acting as your MTA? does it supercede Sendmail or can it work in conjunction with Sendmail? If the two can work together, then you should be able to eat your cake, and have it too. Sendmail has no problems in sending out to a general list. Jon Carnes ----- Original Message ----- From: "webmaster" <webmaster(a)carpemail.com> To: <mailman-users(a)python.org> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] webmail issues > Hello, i am starting a webmail service, we are using webumake mail > to serve this service. > > My service is aimed at a niche market in which yahoo groups are > popular, but webumake mail does not work with yahoo groups, but > webumake support claim it will work will Mailman. > > I have setup a test list and tried this, although i have been able to > register and receive the confirmation email, it fails to register new > user and account cannot receive email from list. > > > The list does work as i have signed up with normal pop account, > webumake give the following reasons why it will not work: > > ------------------------ > The problem is that email received into the catchall account must > have the intended recipient somewhere in the email header for > WebUMake Mail (and any such web-based email product, for that matter) > to determine who the email is intended for. Unfortunately, some > mailing list software persists in defying RFC's and doesn't > provide the recipient information in the standard headers. We have > developed a method to check the last Received: header element and > check it for the "for" text that on most SMTP servers contains the > recipient (though this isn't where it should appear, it should > _always_ be in the To: or Cc: fields according to RFC's). > > If your mail is not being received into WebUMake then the last > Received: header record is not being formatted with a "for" statement > for the intended recipient by your SMTP server either and so the > product has no way of knowing who the email is for. > > If you can configure mailman to send the emails and include the > recipient in the To: field, or configure your SMTP server to > specifying the "for" element of the Received: header record then > WebUMake Mail will pick it up. > ------------------------ > > Is there any particular setting i have to change? > > > many thanks > -- > webmaster, webmaster(a)carpemail.com on 25/02/2002 > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

22 years, 10 months

Newbie Question: Is Sub Confirmation Required?

by Darrin Wortlehock

Hi all, Sorry if this is a FAQ, but the documentation seems sparse atm... :) I run a small, business centric ISP in regional Western Australia. I have a customer who wants to establish an announce-only list service, with subscription from a simple form on their remotely hosted web site. The customer's site is running qmail for an MTA and we have tried using ezmlm for the list. The problem is that the customer is absolutely definitely adament (beyond persuasion otherwise) that they do NOT want list subscribers to have to reply to a confirmation message before being added to the list. I have tried to convince the customer on the technical and security merit of subscription confirmation, but he will not budge. My question therefore is: Is it possible to configure a mailman list to not require return confirmation messages for subscription from a web form? Thanks. Darrin.

25 years, 5 months

WANTED gid 80, GOT gid 2108.

by Riho Kurg

Hi there: I'm trying to run Mailman list processor a few days here already, but no luck yet. Below is short description on operations. First off: our site is running qmail and I am not intended to change this. Right now I'm running ezmlm for list, it works very well, but management just hurts :) Inventory here: # rpm -q python python-1.5.1-5 # uname -a Linux jenka.asosise 2.0.36 #1 Tue Dec 29 13:11:13 EST 1998 i686 unknown OK, downloaded Mailman from www.list.org, untarred, RTFM and go! I need to set mail-gid and cgi-gid # id -g alias 80 # ./configure --with-mail-gid=80 --with-cgi-gid=99 # make; make install Perfect, new-list works just well, as does CGI-interface. # cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-info |preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post info OK, let's try to send mail.. oops, no action. Quick look to qmail and mail.* logfiles: qmail: 935501275.051940 new msg 10187 935501275.051960 info msg 10187: bytes 214 from <riho(a)we.aso.ee> qp 26804 uid 0935501275.116318 starting delivery 16013: msg 10187 to local info(a)aso.ee 935501275.116348 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 mail.*: Aug 24 13:15:59 jenka Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 80, GOT gid 2108. (Reconfigure to take 2108?) Hmm, there's no gid 2108 on system at all. Even no uid. What's wrong? Thanks in advance, Rx.

25 years, 4 months

WANTED gid 80, GOT gid 2108.

by Riho Kurg

Hi there: I'm trying to run Mailman list processor a few days here already, but no luck yet. Below is short description on operations. First off: our site is running qmail and I am not intended to change this. Right now I'm running ezmlm for list, it works very well, but management just hurts :) Inventory here: # rpm -q python python-1.5.1-5 # uname -a Linux jenka.asosise 2.0.36 #1 Tue Dec 29 13:11:13 EST 1998 i686 unknown OK, downloaded Mailman from www.list.org, untarred, RTFM and go! I need to set mail-gid and cgi-gid # id -g alias 80 # ./configure --with-mail-gid=80 --with-cgi-gid=99 # make; make install Perfect, new-list works just well, as does CGI-interface. # cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-info |preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post info OK, let's try to send mail.. oops, no action. Quick look to qmail and mail.* logfiles: qmail: 935501275.051940 new msg 10187 935501275.051960 info msg 10187: bytes 214 from <riho(a)we.aso.ee> qp 26804 uid 0935501275.116318 starting delivery 16013: msg 10187 to local info(a)aso.ee 935501275.116348 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 mail.*: Aug 24 13:15:59 jenka Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 80, GOT gid 2108. (Reconfigure to take 2108?) Hmm, there's no gid 2108 on system at all. Even no uid. I'm lost! What's wrong? Thanks in advance, Rx.

25 years, 4 months

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