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This list is intended to be technical and social diversion for Python enthusiasts who meet face-to-face at the monthly BayPIGgies Python meetings at Google in Mountain View, CA.


Children of all ages, and from everywhere, are welcome to join and participate.

In the event of a vote, only members who have actually attended a live meeting in the last 3 months, or 2 live meetings in the last year, may vote, or participate in controversial discussion about administrative issues.

For the most part, the "vouch-for" system will be used to determine if a person has voting privileges. If the current meeting facilitator, or this list's administrator, or any well-known regular attender can vouch for your attendance, you get voting privileges; if the current meeting facilitator, or this list's administrator, or any well-known regular attender can vouch for someone who can vouch for you, you get voting privileges. If you wish to keep a low profile at meetings, but still would like voting privileges, please keep the badges given to you by Google and be prepared to snail-mail them to the current list administrator, if a vote happens.


Administrative decisions will be made democratically by the members. The list administrator's role is to facilitate and implement the will of the group.

The exception is a case in which an emergency decision is required to immediately revoke an email address's right to post to the list for violating the list's rules, given in "RULES" below. If such a decision and action is taken, it can be reversed by majority vote as described below in "VOTING".

The list administrator has a 2 year term, if a new volunteer is willing to take on the job. If there is more than one willing volunteer, an election will be held to decide which candidate will be the new list administrator. A new list administrator will be chosen:

1. Two months before the current term ends:

The current list administrator will call for volunteers to be candidates for the next term. In order to qualify for candidacy, a volunteer must:

  • have voting privileges on the list.

  • be a list member for at least 1 year.

  • have his candidacy seconded by at least one voting member.

2. One month before the current term ends:

The election will be held by public or private vote, as is deemed practical by the current administrator. Qualified voting members will vote range(-5, 6) for each candidate. The candidate with the most positive votes wins. In case of a tie, the candidate with the most positive votes, and fewest negative votes wins. If there is still a tie, the candidate with the most positive vote, least negative votes and highest average votes wins. If there is still a tie, the candidates with the most positive votes, least negative votes, highest average votes will have their names placed in a hat and the winner will be picked out of the hat at the next face-to-face meeting.

Marilyn Davis is the first list administrator. Her term expires June 1, 2009.


1. The name of the list/group is "Python on the Peninsula".

2. Discussion about these rules are welcome but will be clearly marked with "ADMIN" in the subject line.

3. No flaming. Make your point without attacking the person.

4. If you wish to send private email to a list member, and you want that mail to remain private, you must first write the list member to ask permission to engage in a private conversation and receive a message back encouraging such a private conversation.

5. Job ad rules:

  • Job ads must be clearly marked with "JOB" in the subject line.

  • Only first-party job ads are allowed; no "head-hunters".

  • Ads for jobs outside the SF Bay Area are not allowed, unless the prospective employer is offering to pay moving expenses.

6. Cross-posting by people who have been members for at least one month is welcome as long as:

  • The cross-post is relevent.

  • The cross-poster is careful to cross-post interesting responses from other lists, and, in general, not abandon the topic after the cross-post.


To change a list rule, given above, or a set-up detail for the list:

  1. A change is proposed by one member with voting privileges. See MEMBERSHIP, above, for the definition of a "member with voting privileges".

  2. The change is seconded by a different member with voting privileges.

  3. There is a 2 week period for discussion before a poll is taken.

  4. Voting is:

  • +1 to vote to accept the proposal

  • 0 to abstain

  • -1 to reject the proposal

  1. The poll is open for 1 month

  2. A 2/3 positive/negative vote is required to change a rule.

To reverse an emergency decision made by the list administrator (see ADMINISTRATION above):

  1. The reversal is proposed by one member with voting privileges.

  2. The reversal is seconded by a different member with voting priviledges.

  3. There is a 24 hour period for discussion before a poll is taken.

  4. Voting is:

  • +1 to vote for the reversal

  • 0 to abstain

  • -1 to reject the reversal

  1. The poll is open for 1 week except in the special case explained in # 7, below.

  2. 51% positive/negative vote is required to reverse an emergency decision.

  3. If there is a 2/3 positive/negative vote, and at least 20 voters, at any time before the 1 week of voting expires, the emergency decision will be reversed.

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In order to protect the integrity of the list archives, we do not routinely agree to remove or obscure posts that are in the archives. We only do this in exceptional circumstances such as if someone has posted personal/private information about someone else, or an obviously private e-mail has accidentally been posted to the list.

To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the pyop Archives.

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