[Baypiggies] call for newbie nuggets

[Glen Jarvis]

We've tried this so many times and we always have mixed results... (But,
let's do it again :)

It's *hard* to make a decorator talk as a newbie nugget - and explain in a
clear and concise way - such a new concept.

What if we broke it down into a couple of different newbie nuggets?

What about the first one is:
1) How do I use a decorator?   (i.e., examples of common decorators and how
they are useful)

For anyone who's actually used a decorator, this will be boring as sin --
but for anyone who hasn't, this will be a good introduction (and that's what
newbie nuggets are for :)



Then, another month or another time, we can build on it and we can do a talk
of:
2) How to write a basic decorator


I like the idea because it gives people a chance to use them first *before*
we jump into writing them.... Also, there are tons of things we can leave
out of the first talk -- just to keep it simple.



If we accept this very *very* basic explanation approach (and
part/progressive method over months), I'd consider doing the nugget...


Cheers,


Glen





On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
>
> thanks, marla,
>   you probably noticed that alex kleider's seconded
> the decorators idea. i'm betting that a regular
> beating^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H repeating of decorator
> essentials is a good idea. now to find somebody to
> do the presentation.
>   i love the idea of what's pythonic. i'd like to
> know. seems like multiple newbie nuggets, each
> focusing on one pythonic technique, would drill the
> sense of it home (and "pythonic" does seem a mind set
> that one acquires, like a taste for scotch whiskey).
>
>   got any more ideas?
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 05:32 +0000, Marla Parker wrote:
> > >   A newbie nugget is a short talk on a single
> > > feature of Python programming, maybe a technique
> > > or language feature or a built-in or..., that
> > > is from five to ten minutes and targets an
> > > experienced coder who is fairly new to Python.
> >
> > That is me: an experienced coder fairly new to Python.
> > My 10 years of full time coding ended in 93, and since
> > then I've been managing developers or working with
> > developers but never doing code myself for my day job.
> >
> > Now I'm working to get back on the keyboard because
> > frankly it is just more fun than all the other things
> > I can do.
> >
> > So I don't want to give a newbie talk, but I'll suggest
> > newbie talk subjects that I'd like to attend.
> >
> > - decorators - I've read about them and I get them in
> > theory, and I've looked at some examples in our code base,
> > but.... I feel like I'm missing the point.
> >
> > - "pythonic" things that seem weird at first but then
> > wonderful once you get used to them
> >
> > That is all I can think of right now.  Maybe other newbies
> > can suggest a topic that will make someone else think:
> > hey, I guess I must be experienced because I could easily
> > explain that in 10 minutes.
> >
> > Marla
> >
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