[Catalog-sig] cheeseshop down?

Jim Fulton jim at zope.com
Mon Oct 30 22:29:42 CET 2006

Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> Jim Fulton schrieb:
>>> I don't have time to look into what might have happened right now
>>> though.
>> This is a fairly serious problem.  In the past, you questioned why
>> anyone would want to implement their own package indexes.
> And I would still question that. I can understand why people are
> unhappy if the service isn't reliable; I can't understand why they
> then think they can do better their own.

Because the current one is down or unresponsive more often then
many of us will be able to deal with.

>> I'll refrain, for now, from making suggestions, although I really
>> want to, because I haven't had a chance to study the current
>> implementation.
> I hope the suggestion won't be "let's build another package database".

That wasn't what I had in mind, no.

> Other suggestions certainly would be welcome.  As we found in this
> specific case, it really was an admin error, by some unknown admin.

I guess the fact that the admin who caused the problem is unknown
is a problem in itself.

> Would your suggestion have such error from happening?

I don't know.  It might have, depending on what it was. :)

I wouldn't make a suggestion without finding out more about the
implementation.  It has been suggested in the past that we might want
to create mirrors. That *would* have helped in this situation.

Please understand that I'm not trying to criticize anyone.
PyPI is a great system, when it works.


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