[Catalog-sig] Why so many zc.buildout versions?

René Dudfield renesd at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 14:20:22 CEST 2007

I have to say the cheeseshop code was pretty easy to get into.

I think I was able to make most of my changes within the first reading of it.

It quite clearly separates things like the templates, the database
functionality and the 'webui'.

There definitely are a huge amount of things that I would love to
change with it over time, and I hope other people begin to develop it
more - it can only help the python community as a whole.

The amount of people doing releases has increased quite a lot even in
the last two months, so I think the releases will get more frequent.
As it grows it will continue to need different changes - optimizations
to the database/webserver, and also optimizations to the user

On 7/11/07, "Martin v. Löwis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
> >> I have been thinking about the same thing. I think it would be good
> >> to have, however, it will surely take some time until all setuptools
> >> implementations learn to use it.
> >
> > No, not at all.  You can tell setuptools to use a different index than
> > the current one.  For example, this is a command-line option for
> > easy_install and a configuration option for buildout.
> Yes. However, that will make the feature only available to those who
> know about it. I have very shallow knowledge of setuptools and
> easy_install only (I nearly never use them at all), and I surely would
> miss such an option, and miss why it's relevant.
> It's true that the Apache installation could also redirect existing
> installations to the new pages, but I doubt that they would be otherwise
> widely used until setuptools changes its hard-coded default.
> >> Hmm. How about those using them extensively start contributing to
> >> them also?
> >
> > I like to think that I am by participating in this discussion.  Actually
> > changing the cheeseshop software has a very high learning curve. I don't
> > think that I can make that kind of time any time soon.  I'm very
> > grateful that you and René are doing what you're doing.  I also suspect
> > that, given your and René's activity, it would be counter productive for
> > someone else to get involved at that level, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
> I strongly think you are. There are many things that could be improved,
> and I would not mind leaving the cheeseshop alone if some other
> maintainer came along - I also have other things to do.
> Regards,
> Martin
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