While we're on the topic, Python and Django both show up in the latest clip from Why: http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/todaySAllReruns.html ("If you don’t want to bother watching it, the moral is that love conquers all. (Where love and ruby are interchangeable terms.)") -- Ian Bicking | ianb at colorstudy.com | http://blog.ianbicking.org