[Chicago] Web Frameworks?

sheila miguez shekay at pobox.com
Mon Aug 20 00:38:25 CEST 2007

On 8/19/07, Brian Ray <bray at sent.com> wrote:
> On Aug 18, 2007, at 7:36 PM, sheila miguez wrote:

> > I was curious about aop in python and found a guy out there trying to
> > create spring for python. http://springpython.python-hosting.com/
> There are a couple other projects that claim to use aspect oriented
> programming in Python:
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~ask/aspects/aspects.html
> http://www.logilab.org/projects/aspects
> http://peak.telecommunity.com/
> http://pythius.sourceforge.net/

I think I saw some of these following from the wikipedia page that
came up on aop when I googled aop and python.

> I am really interested why a framework would be used here at all. It
> seems if would be easy to do any of this with minimal effort using
> plain language features.

why a framework for aop and dependency injection would be used in
python? or in general?

in general? works well for me with java. I've never needed it for
simple python stuff I use at work. it would have been great to have
for the tcl jobs I've had before. I feel like evangelizing my old
company to tell them to see if something out there exists like this
for tcl (though I googled and it looks like more python people think
about aop than do tcl people. went to the tcler's wiki and just found
some bloviations, no projects)

I guess... if you need the features, great. if not, don't bother.

and if you do it yourself with vanilla features, maybe you'd
eventually end up turning your stuff into a framework.

In my early days of using tcl I hacked up a logging thing where I made
people use my own proc that wrapped their proc in logging when making
a real proc.

> I am not saying not to use a Framework. In fact, since when I start
> new web projects I used Django.  Nevertheless, I got a lot of value
> out of learning from base Python first and worrying about Frameworks
> later.


I'd rather learn the base until I have a good enough feel for how much
value a framework would add.


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