[Chicago] joyent "garden of eden" for python apps

Matt Dennewitz matt at datawaslost.net
Fri Apr 11 19:31:44 CEST 2008

maybe this has already been said and i missed it, but:

doesnt seem like joyent have too much to worry about until appengine  
starts to support other languages. and, its not like everyone is going  
to be trampling over each-other to drop their comfy relational  
database schemas and current setups to port to appengine. frankly, in  
most cases, it wouldn't make sense unless you:
a. have an unwritten app, or an app that would easily translate to  
appengine (probably not the case for most already-launched) apps, and
b. really want to use appengine because of its features -- meaning  
that you are either pro-google, want the free pricing, or don't think  
amazon's (awesome) a la offerings are right for you.

one of the nice things about joyent and (to some degree) other self- 
scaling hosting platforms like media temples gridserver is that you  
have a degree of *choices* in the stack you're using. i dont see why  
joyent would be unloading in their drawers just yet. sour grapes for  
sure (boo to that), but im not sure its any more than looking over  
their shoulder when they heard a loud thud.


as a side note: if anyone is particularly inspired, i have an  
available application spot (maybe two) that i'm down to share. i built  
a reddit clone (using bayesian rating for submitted content for now  
while i refine the algorithm) in a couple of hours, and its been  
pretty fun to develop, albeit a simple application. the appengine docs  
are a bit sparse, but most modules have pretty handy help() docs.

looking forward to the talks on tuesday!


On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Chris McAvoy wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Ian Bicking <ianb at colorstudy.com>  
> wrote:
>> Feihong Hsu wrote:
>>> What if your site is just an informational site (like chicagocrime  
>>> or
>>> the TurboGears home page) that doesn't need to store user data? (The
>>> same might be true if it's a mashup of existing sites.)
>>> But yeah, I do wonder about what Joyent intends to do with all that
>>> data. It sounds fishy.
>> I got the impression that they felt what they were describing was the
>> same thing appengine was doing.  That is, watching and logging  
>> traffic.
> Yes, it's snarky satire.  With a dose of sour grapes and fear.
> Chris
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