[Chicago] web2py 1.20 is out

Massimo Di Pierro mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu
Tue Feb 5 17:21:09 CET 2008

feel free to email the google group if you have questions.


On Feb 5, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Griffin wrote:

> Thanks for elaborating on web2py, I am going to work through some  
> of the tutorials and see for myself.
> Martin:
> A few of the frameworks give a little info on legacy data set  
> support. To me a framework should do the following:
> -Set you up for MVC
> -Easy database connectivity and ORM
> -Simple way to expose those models as forms, lists, etc.
> -A template language.
> -Ideally some helpers to work with AJAX, routes etc.
> The big problem is the lack of easy forms and lists, it seems that  
> there should be some nice decorator style objects that would let  
> you pop out a variety of forms, from normal HTML forms to Ext style  
> super forms.
> But I am still new at web development(I am a C programmer by day),  
> so I might be wrong.
> Dan
> On Feb 5, 2008 9:51 AM, Martin Maney <maney at two14.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 09:29:33PM -0600, Daniel Griffin wrote:
> > notes. I would really like Prof. Di Pierro's input on this and  
> why he went
> > the way he did with web2py.
> For pedagogical purposes, it can be very beneficial to pretend that
> there are only square holes and pegs to match.  <wink>
> > I have been trying to solve a much larger problem than any of these
> > frameworks really prepares me for, namely working with creating a  
> web
> > front-end to a mature piece of enterprise software. Pylons has  
> given me the
> > most hope so far, but I think I am still going to end up writing  
> a ton of
> > boilerplate code.
> Are there any frameworks that don't pretty much assume you're starting
> from scratch?  I'd say that all of them that I've looked at for more
> than the briefest glance leverage the assumption that the project is
> all new (and needn't consider anyone accessing its data except through
> the app built using the framework) as a hugely simplifying  
> assumption -
> only one shape of holes and pegs, once again.
> --
> Anyone who says you can have a lot of widely dispersed people hack
> away on a complicated piece of code and avoid total anarchy has never
> managed a software project.  -- Andy Tanenbaum
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