[Chicago] Code of conduct on the mailing list.

[Jordan Bettis]

That's an interesting post.

But yeah, I was joking. :( Sorry Carl.


On 04/08/2014 11:26 AM, Don Sheu wrote:
> I'm not joking. Discrimination based on language and accent was a
> research focus of my mine during my college days at Columbia University. 
> 
> One of my professors Franklin Odo who retired as the curator of the
> Smithsonian's Asian American and Pacific Islander collection introduced
> me to the works of his friend Mari Matsuda. 
> 
> Mari's brilliant Yale Law Review article on accent discrimination
> recounted a Filipino man who'd applied at the Hawaii DMV for a job and
> was turned down for lack of English fluency. Turned out he was perfectly
> fluent. In fact the linguist hired as a witness for his court case noted
> that out of defending counsel, plaintiff's counsel, and the presiding
> judge, and everybody else that spoke in the court, only the plaintiff
> spoke without grammatical errors. 
> 
> He was discriminated against for speaking American wrong. Mind you the
> interviewers were Japanese American. Mari omitted this in her article.
> My professor confided this fact to us, and shared that he found it very
> interesting she decided to omit this piece in her essay. 
> 
> Language is very important to me. I'm not going to minimize Jerome's
> offense at the word fork. I don't understand it, but I respect his right
> to not feel minimized. 
> 
> Here's a link to Mari Matsuda's articles on JSTOR.
> 
> http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1048156?searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dmari%2Bmatsuda%26amp%3Bacc%3Doff%26amp%3Bwc%3Don%26amp%3Bfc%3Doff&resultItemClick=true&Search=yes&searchText=mari&searchText=matsuda&uid=3739256&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21103970534843
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com
> <mailto:carl at personnelware.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Please don't joke about this.
> 
>     The people who have taken it upon themselves to deal with these
>     issues do not have the luxury to figure out if someone is joking. 
>     The should take every instance seriously.  "are you sure?" and "are
>     you joking?" are not anything they should be considering.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Don Sheu <donald at caa.columbia.edu
>     <mailto:donald at caa.columbia.edu>> wrote:
> 
>         Is there a process to handle complaints by the ChiPy Board? I
>         think it's important to make sure that Jordan's concerns are
>         addressed in a manner that provides him enough security that he
>         doesn't feel minimized. 
> 
> 
>         On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jordan Bettis <jordanb at hafd.org
>         <mailto:jordanb at hafd.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
>             I'm offended by the "fork" reference in the lower right.
> 
>             On 04/03/2014 08:15 PM, Cezar Jenkins wrote:
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