[Chicago] Code of conduct on the mailing list.

Tue Apr 8 19:12:14 CEST 2014

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Adam

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Joe Germuska <joe at germuska.com> wrote:

> For starters, I’d suggest that the organizers establish a system where
> those who do have complaints have a way to air them off list, so that they
> don’t turn into a volley of
> yeah/me-too/you’re-too-sensitive/shut-up/unsubscribe-me-from-the-list noise.
>
> Joe
>
> On Apr 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Don Sheu <donald at caa.columbia.edu> wrote:
>
> I'm not joking. Discrimination based on language and accent was a research
> focus of my mine during my college days at Columbia University.
>
> One of my professors Franklin Odo who retired as the curator of the
> Smithsonian's Asian American and Pacific Islander collection introduced me
> to the works of his friend Mari Matsuda.
>
> Mari's brilliant Yale Law Review article on accent discrimination
> recounted a Filipino man who'd applied at the Hawaii DMV for a job and was
> turned down for lack of English fluency. Turned out he was perfectly
> fluent. In fact the linguist hired as a witness for his court case noted
> that out of defending counsel, plaintiff's counsel, and the presiding
> judge, and everybody else that spoke in the court, only the plaintiff spoke
> without grammatical errors.
>
> He was discriminated against for speaking American wrong. Mind you the
> interviewers were Japanese American. Mari omitted this in her article. My
> professor confided this fact to us, and shared that he found it very
> interesting she decided to omit this piece in her essay.
>
> Language is very important to me. I'm not going to minimize Jerome's
> offense at the word fork. I don't understand it, but I respect his right to
> not feel minimized.
>
> Here's a link to Mari Matsuda's articles on JSTOR.
>
>
> http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1048156?searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dmari%2Bmatsuda%26amp%3Bacc%3Doff%26amp%3Bwc%3Don%26amp%3Bfc%3Doff&resultItemClick=true&Search=yes&searchText=mari&searchText=matsuda&uid=3739256&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21103970534843
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>wrote:
>
>> Please don't joke about this.
>>
>> The people who have taken it upon themselves to deal with these issues do
>> not have the luxury to figure out if someone is joking.  The should take
>> every instance seriously.  "are you sure?" and "are you joking?" are not
>> anything they should be considering.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Don Sheu <donald at caa.columbia.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a process to handle complaints by the ChiPy Board? I think it's
>>> important to make sure that Jordan's concerns are addressed in a manner
>>> that provides him enough security that he doesn't feel minimized.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jordan Bettis <jordanb at hafd.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm offended by the "fork" reference in the lower right.
>>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2014 08:15 PM, Cezar Jenkins wrote:
>>>> > Hello Pythonistas!
>>>> >
>>>> > Since as a group we are trying to adhere to a code of conduct to make
>>>> > Chipy a great experience for everyone, we would like to remind
>>>> everyone
>>>> > that we would like you to take into consideration the code of
>>>> conduct[0]
>>>> > when posting to the Chipy list.
>>>> >
>>>> > [0] http://www.chipy.org/pages/conduct/
>>>> >
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