[Chicago] Code of conduct on the mailing list.

[Joe Germuska]

For starters, I’d suggest that the organizers establish a system where those who do have complaints have a way to air them off list, so that they don’t turn into a volley of yeah/me-too/you’re-too-sensitive/shut-up/unsubscribe-me-from-the-list noise.

Joe

On Apr 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Don Sheu <donald at caa.columbia.edu> wrote:

> I'm not joking. Discrimination based on language and accent was a research focus of my mine during my college days at Columbia University. 
> 
> One of my professors Franklin Odo who retired as the curator of the Smithsonian's Asian American and Pacific Islander collection introduced me to the works of his friend Mari Matsuda. 
> 
> Mari's brilliant Yale Law Review article on accent discrimination recounted a Filipino man who'd applied at the Hawaii DMV for a job and was turned down for lack of English fluency. Turned out he was perfectly fluent. In fact the linguist hired as a witness for his court case noted that out of defending counsel, plaintiff's counsel, and the presiding judge, and everybody else that spoke in the court, only the plaintiff spoke without grammatical errors. 
> 
> He was discriminated against for speaking American wrong. Mind you the interviewers were Japanese American. Mari omitted this in her article. My professor confided this fact to us, and shared that he found it very interesting she decided to omit this piece in her essay. 
> 
> Language is very important to me. I'm not going to minimize Jerome's offense at the word fork. I don't understand it, but I respect his right to not feel minimized. 
> 
> Here's a link to Mari Matsuda's articles on JSTOR.
> 
> http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1048156?searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dmari%2Bmatsuda%26amp%3Bacc%3Doff%26amp%3Bwc%3Don%26amp%3Bfc%3Doff&resultItemClick=true&Search=yes&searchText=mari&searchText=matsuda&uid=3739256&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21103970534843
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> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> Please don't joke about this.
> 
> The people who have taken it upon themselves to deal with these issues do not have the luxury to figure out if someone is joking.  The should take every instance seriously.  "are you sure?" and "are you joking?" are not anything they should be considering.
> 
> 
> 
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> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Don Sheu <donald at caa.columbia.edu> wrote:
> Is there a process to handle complaints by the ChiPy Board? I think it's important to make sure that Jordan's concerns are addressed in a manner that provides him enough security that he doesn't feel minimized. 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jordan Bettis <jordanb at hafd.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm offended by the "fork" reference in the lower right.
> 
> On 04/03/2014 08:15 PM, Cezar Jenkins wrote:
> > Hello Pythonistas!
> >
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