[Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ???

Joshua Herman zitterbewegung at gmail.com
Tue Sep 29 19:29:28 CEST 2015

How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in the
following manner.
0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl Karsten
telling me the general syntax rules.
1. Start by using python script on the command line
2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen
5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython
7. Play with anaconda
8. I am here

Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better starting
point for people who install python? I think more scientific/
financial oriented people are doing the following.
1. Get exposed to python to apply to work
2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a browser?
possibly you don't even have a local install of python .
Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision.
?. Start by using python script on the command line
?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
?. Do web development

I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we should
introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason
setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is
probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to
learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a
person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
>> I think my answer was way too long!  Sorry!  Just trying to explain
>> what's going on.  I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE to
>> access all the modules that Anaconda can access.  Not really sure how to do
>> it without tearing apart my operating system.  (And I really don't want to
>> do that! )  I must say
> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll have a
> question like this and will google and see some related stack overflow
> questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle in
> anaconda
> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing list.
> It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE
> should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear.
> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ
> The stack overflow response is
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle
> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It involves
> changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and you
> won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. I don't know
> if the answer works, but it something to try.
> --
> shekay at pobox.com
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