[Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ???

Wed Sep 30 03:56:38 CEST 2015

Hi Joshua,

My first name is Doug or Douglas, NOT Lewit!!!!  LOL!!!!

It seems like Project Night is usually on a Thursday night, right?  Right
now my Thursday nights look a little busy.  Although I would probably learn
more from Project Night than my Informatics professor, but.... he's got that*
PhD*, and I guess those three magic letters means he knows everything about
computer science, right?   :-)

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Joshua Herman <zitterbewegung at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear lewit,
> When do you have time to go to events like project nights in general ? Do
> you live on campus all of the time? What about going on a weekend or during
> winter break?
> Sincerely
> Joshua herman
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Exactly!  I'm a little nervous about changing my $PATH variable because
>> I'm definitely NOT a Unix administrator!  I mean.... I know the basics,
>> like cd, cp, mv, ls, ls -ld -- */, ls | wc -l, and some other cool stuff.
>> But changing $PATH is a little scary to me!  On the rare occasion when I do
>> that stuff, I always use Emacs as my text editor.  The great thing about
>> Emacs is that when you edit a file, Emacs saves the original with a tilde
>> following the name of the file.  So if I want to edit bash.rc I end up with
>> bash.rc and bash.rc~.  If I totally screwed up bash.rc, then I just do this:
>>
>> mv bash.rc~ bash.rc
>>
>> That restores the previous bash.rc file.  It overwrites the messed up
>> file with the original correct file.  BUT in general I'm very nervous about
>> doing system changes like that.  I tried doing a dual boot of Ubuntu and
>> Kali Linux a while back.  Big mistake!!!!  I mistakenly deleted the grub
>> file and then I was really SCREWED!!!!  I had to do a fresh install of
>> Ubuntu on my hard drive.  That wasn't fun!  (Ubuntu is pretty easy to
>> install.  Kali Linux is NOT easy to install unless you know a lot about
>> networking, protocols, and other stuff that is currently beyond my
>> knowledge of modern computation.)
>>
>> I would love to attend a Python Project Night.  The problem is that those
>> are always scheduled for a Thursday night.  That's when I have my
>> Informatics class.  And since the class meets up once a week, missing a
>> class for Python Project Night is probably not a smart move on my part.
>>
>> Oh hey there Safia!  Thanks for writing.  Much appreciated.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:57 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
>> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Os.chdir( ) is not what your looking for you need to add the path for
>>> your Anaconda packages to the sys.path list. That being said its generally
>>> not a good idea to mess with sys.path unless you know what your doing. It
>>> will almost surely break your code portability.
>>>
>>> If you need help setting up Python I would suggest that you go to
>>> Project Night. They are a great group of people and I'm sure they would be
>>> more then happy to get you started down the right path.
>>>
>>> http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> William Clemens
>>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Herman <
>>> zitterbewegung at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in the
>>>> following manner.
>>>> 0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl Karsten
>>>> telling me the general syntax rules.
>>>> 1. Start by using python script on the command line
>>>> 2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
>>>> 4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen
>>>> 5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
>>>> 6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython
>>>> 7. Play with anaconda
>>>> 8. I am here
>>>>
>>>> Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better
>>>> starting point for people who install python? I think more scientific/
>>>> financial oriented people are doing the following.
>>>> 1. Get exposed to python to apply to work
>>>> 2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a browser?
>>>> possibly you don't even have a local install of python .
>>>> Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision.
>>>> ?. Start by using python script on the command line
>>>> ?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
>>>> ?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
>>>> ?. Do web development
>>>>
>>>> I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we should
>>>> introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason
>>>> setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is
>>>> probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to
>>>> learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a
>>>> person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think my answer was way too long!  Sorry!  Just trying to explain
>>>>>> what's going on.  I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE to
>>>>>> access all the modules that Anaconda can access.  Not really sure how to do
>>>>>> it without tearing apart my operating system.  (And I really don't want to
>>>>>> do that! )  I must say
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll
>>>>> have a question like this and will google and see some related stack
>>>>> overflow questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle
>>>>> in anaconda
>>>>>
>>>>> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing list.
>>>>> It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE
>>>>> should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ
>>>>>
>>>>> The stack overflow response is
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It involves
>>>>> changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and you
>>>>> won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. I don't know
>>>>> if the answer works, but it something to try.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> shekay at pobox.com
>>>>>
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