[Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ???

Joshua Herman zitterbewegung at gmail.com
Wed Sep 30 03:11:26 CEST 2015

Dear lewit,
When do you have time to go to events like project nights in general ? Do
you live on campus all of the time? What about going on a weekend or during
winter break?
Joshua herman
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> Exactly!  I'm a little nervous about changing my $PATH variable because
> I'm definitely NOT a Unix administrator!  I mean.... I know the basics,
> like cd, cp, mv, ls, ls -ld -- */, ls | wc -l, and some other cool stuff.
> But changing $PATH is a little scary to me!  On the rare occasion when I do
> that stuff, I always use Emacs as my text editor.  The great thing about
> Emacs is that when you edit a file, Emacs saves the original with a tilde
> following the name of the file.  So if I want to edit bash.rc I end up with
> bash.rc and bash.rc~.  If I totally screwed up bash.rc, then I just do this:
> mv bash.rc~ bash.rc
> That restores the previous bash.rc file.  It overwrites the messed up file
> with the original correct file.  BUT in general I'm very nervous about
> doing system changes like that.  I tried doing a dual boot of Ubuntu and
> Kali Linux a while back.  Big mistake!!!!  I mistakenly deleted the grub
> file and then I was really SCREWED!!!!  I had to do a fresh install of
> Ubuntu on my hard drive.  That wasn't fun!  (Ubuntu is pretty easy to
> install.  Kali Linux is NOT easy to install unless you know a lot about
> networking, protocols, and other stuff that is currently beyond my
> knowledge of modern computation.)
> I would love to attend a Python Project Night.  The problem is that those
> are always scheduled for a Thursday night.  That's when I have my
> Informatics class.  And since the class meets up once a week, missing a
> class for Python Project Night is probably not a smart move on my part.
> Oh hey there Safia!  Thanks for writing.  Much appreciated.
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:57 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Os.chdir( ) is not what your looking for you need to add the path for
>> your Anaconda packages to the sys.path list. That being said its generally
>> not a good idea to mess with sys.path unless you know what your doing. It
>> will almost surely break your code portability.
>> If you need help setting up Python I would suggest that you go to Project
>> Night. They are a great group of people and I'm sure they would be more
>> then happy to get you started down the right path.
>> http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/
>> --
>> William Clemens
>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Herman <zitterbewegung at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in the
>>> following manner.
>>> 0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl Karsten
>>> telling me the general syntax rules.
>>> 1. Start by using python script on the command line
>>> 2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
>>> 4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen
>>> 5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
>>> 6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython
>>> 7. Play with anaconda
>>> 8. I am here
>>> Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better
>>> starting point for people who install python? I think more scientific/
>>> financial oriented people are doing the following.
>>> 1. Get exposed to python to apply to work
>>> 2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a browser?
>>> possibly you don't even have a local install of python .
>>> Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision.
>>> ?. Start by using python script on the command line
>>> ?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
>>> ?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
>>> ?. Do web development
>>> I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we should
>>> introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason
>>> setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is
>>> probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to
>>> learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a
>>> person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps.
>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I think my answer was way too long!  Sorry!  Just trying to explain
>>>>> what's going on.  I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE to
>>>>> access all the modules that Anaconda can access.  Not really sure how to do
>>>>> it without tearing apart my operating system.  (And I really don't want to
>>>>> do that! )  I must say
>>>> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll have
>>>> a question like this and will google and see some related stack overflow
>>>> questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle in
>>>> anaconda
>>>> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing list.
>>>> It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE
>>>> should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear.
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ
>>>> The stack overflow response is
>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle
>>>> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It involves
>>>> changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and you
>>>> won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. I don't know
>>>> if the answer works, but it something to try.
>>>> --
>>>> shekay at pobox.com
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