[Distutils] Distutils at the PyCon 2004 sprints

[Phillip J. Eby]

You know, it's really amazing how many more messages have been posted here 
on the subject of what CVS repository 'setuptools' should live in, than 
have commented on the design or implementation of setuptools itself.  :)


At 09:14 PM 3/17/04 -0500, Tim Peters wrote:
>[Phillip J. Eby]
> >>> Fred, do you think we should go ahead and move setuptools to
> >>> cvs.zope.org?
>
>[A.M. Kuchling]
> >> Shouldn't it go in the Python CVS tree, probably in nondist/sandbox?
>
>[Phillip]
> > Maybe so, but as a practical matter, I don't have commit access to the
> > Python CVS. :)
>
>And with an attitude like that, you're never gonna get it <wink>.

Um, you mean my "practicality beats purity" attitude?  :)


> > Also, isn't it customary for packages targeted for non-current
> > versions of Python to live outside the Python CVS?  E.g. logging,
> > Optik, et al?
>
>There's no non-accidental relation, as the nondist/ subtree has no
>relationship to Python releases.

Ah.


> > Even if setuptools were adopted for 2.4, it would still need to
> > be separately obtainable for 2.2 and 2.3 users.
>
>The practical question is who y'all expect to *work* on this project.  That
>you (Phillip) don't have commit access to the Python tree is an important
>point.  If someone else who intends to work on it doesn't have commit access
>to Zope CVS, and doesn't want to sign the contributor thingie Zope Corp
>usually requires to get such access, then that's also an important point.

Doesn't Python CVS access require a similar "contributor thingie", for the 
same reasons as Zope?


>Despite that Zope Corp funded initial work on the SpamBayes project, it
>started its life in the Python sandbox ("because" it was always going to be
>released under a PSF license), and we decided it was easiest for our
>contributors to set up a new SourceForge project for it.
>
>Aim to make life easiest for your likely primary contributors.

Fred and I are both zope.org CVS committers, and for the sprint I sort of 
assumed Fred and/or Jim would have "contributor thingies" on hand for 
people to sign if needed.  :)