[Distutils] Distutils at the PyCon 2004 sprints

[Fred L. Drake, Jr.]

On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 05:57:39PM -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
 > Fred, do you think we should go ahead and move setuptools to
 > cvs.zope.org?  Actually, I guess first I should ask if you found its

At 07:16 PM 3/17/04 -0500, A.M. Kuchling wrote:
 >Shouldn't it go in the Python CVS tree, probably in nondist/sandbox?

This would also be fine by me.  Whether the code is in the zope.org or 
python.sf.net repositories is immaterial to Zope's immediate needs (I'm 
fairly certain of this); whether it's covered by the PSF license or the ZPL2 
is also irrelevant.  (If Phillip commits it to the zope.org repository, all 
such versions will be available by the ZPL2.  I think the python.sf.net 
repository is more flexible, but that's not important.)

On Wednesday 17 March 2004 07:27 pm, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
 > Maybe so, but as a practical matter, I don't have commit access to the
 > Python CVS. :)

As Tim suggests, this is something that can be dealt with.

 > Also, isn't it customary for packages targeted for non-current versions of
 > Python to live outside the Python CVS?  E.g. logging, Optik, et al?  Even
 > if setuptools were adopted for 2.4, it would still need to be separately
 > obtainable for 2.2 and 2.3 users.

Your examples were developed for current versions of Python when they were 
initially developed; they've remained available for older versions as well.  
Distutils itself is in Python's CVS and is maintained for older versions at 
all (there's a top-level module you can check out and get a separate 
distutils distribution).  So I'd say that *if* setuptools is being developed 
as a potential addition to Python's standard library, it's quite reasonable 
for it to be in Python's CVS.  My own thinking is that its more of a testbed 
for enhancements to distutils.  It may be that its also useful as an add-on 
package that works with older versions of distutils as well (in which case, 
the Python CVS is still a good place to maintain it).

As it stands, the code is Phillip's, and he can do with it as he pleases.  I 
won't object to using the zope.org CVS, though the python.sf.net CVS may 
prove better in the long term, especially if setuptools should maintain an 
identity of it's own.


  -Fred

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