[Distutils] patch: ez_setup.py: separate default version and minimum version of setuptools
zooko
zooko at zooko.com
Sat Sep 29 00:46:27 CEST 2007
>> Agreed. So in order to automatically satisfy our dependency on
>> simplejson using simplejson's source tarballs, we can either ask Bob
>> Ippolito (the author and packager of simplejson) to please switch to
>> the patched version of ez_setup.py and pass min_version="0.6a9" to
>> it, or else we can ask him to please set his version="0.6a9" and
>> start hosting setuptools 0.6a9 eggs for his users.
...
> So bear in mind that since it's already *possible* to do this, it's
> unlikely I'll accept a patch that makes it *easy* for people to
> keep using outdated alphas. :)
Oh yes, we too prefer for our users to use newer versions of
setuptools. I sympathize with your motivation. :-)
Actually I think this patch makes it easier in some cases for people
to gracefully upgrade to newer versions of setuptools.
Consider our case: we are required to service users of Ubuntu dapper
and to do so without requiring them to first upgrade their version of
setuptools. If we use standard ez_setup.py, then what happens is
that all of our users (not just the Ubuntu dapper using ones) get
setuptools v0.6a9 installed. Eventually, our users will upgrade from
Ubuntu dapper to a newer Ubuntu, and they will upgrade their version
of setuptools when they upgrade their operating system, but our other
users -- the ones whose version of setuptools is automatically
installed by our ez_setup.py script -- will be stuck with v0.6a9.
So in order to support our dapper users while also installing a newer
version of setuptools for non-dapper-users, we patched our
ez_setup.py. Now dapper users proceed as normal, but all our other
users get setuptools v0.6c7 installed.
This is already good enough for us -- we don't mind maintaining a
slightly different version of ez_setup.py than the official one. The
reason why this patch going into the official ez_setup.py would help
us is that if packages like simplejson used it (and allowed a
sufficiently old version of setuptools) then we could add simplejson
to the list of dependencies that are automatically satisfied by
setuptools even while satisfying the above-mentioned policies.
By the way, I'm separately submitting a patch which, if it can be
made to work, might allow us to automatically upgrade people to newer
versions of setuptools when they follow our installation procedure.
Regards,
Zooko
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