[Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute
Alex Grönholm
alex.gronholm at nextday.fi
Mon Oct 5 18:10:13 CEST 2009
Jeremy Sanders kirjoitti:
> K. Richard Pixley wrote:
>
>
>> Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>> For beginners this issue is a showstopper that they cannot resolve
>>> without help.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm a relative beginner to distutils/setuptools/distribute, but a long
>> time configuration/build/packaging professional. You're mistaken if you
>> think that any of these technologies are suitable for beginners. The
>> state of python package distribution resembles the state of linux
>> packages circa 1995, except that it isn't very well documented at all.
>>
>
> As a general question, is there any planned project to improve the state of
> distutils or replace it? It appears to be one of the weakest parts of the
> Python system and needs replacing with something much cleaner, better
> documented and more powerful.
>
> Even making something like cmake the standard would help a lot.
>
>
There is a lack of consensus regarding how exactly they should work. If
we are having this much trouble deciding how a third party tool should
work, it is certainly not going to be merged into distutils until those
issues have been resolved. Distutils is what houses (or should) the
parts we all agree on. That said, I think that plenty of
setuptools/distribute functionality should be moved to distutils (after
the code has been cleaned up and the proper unit tests introduced).
> Jeremy
>
>
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