[Distutils] a plea for backward-compatibility / smooth transitions

Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io
Wed Jul 31 00:51:25 CEST 2013

On Jul 30, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Vinay Sajip <vinay_sajip at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Donald Stufft <donald <at> stufft.io> writes:
>> to PyPI. The "snark" in my statements primarily came from that feeling of
>> someone was trying to "shut down" an enhancement.
> To be fair, the tone you've taken (which can rub people up the wrong way)
> hasn't just been over long-standing security issues. I've also felt
> uncomfortable with some of your responses relating to the PEP 426
> discussion around the JSON schema for requirements, where there is not the
> same level of urgency, nor valid reason to believe that you're being thwarted
> somehow.

I never meant to claim it was simply over security issues. I'm certainly more
"energetic" about advocating for security issues and they frame the backdrop
for a lot of my feelings with distutils-sig as an adversary rather than an ally . The
simple fact is that every disagreement, or even simple suggestion, is framed
against that feeling leading towards the Me vs Them tone.

> If someone's approach comes off as unduly dismissive (even if not meant that
> way), it makes it harder to engage in constructive discussion. I recognise
> that it's hard communicating with people remotely, many of whom one might
> never have met. It's easy to miss nuance and misconstrue turns of phrase. It's
> best to tread gingerly, else too much time is spent smoothing ruffled feathers
> at the expense of getting real work done.
> Regards,
> Vinay Sajip
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