[Distutils] Using Wheel with zipimport

Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io
Wed Jan 29 14:39:50 CET 2014


On Jan 29, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:

> 
> On Jan 29, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 29 January 2014 23:31, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's Paul explicitly mentioning that Wheels being used with zip import is
>>> an incidental benefit and not a core feature.
>>> 
>>> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2013-March/020379.html
>> 
>> Donald, I was *there*. I know what we discussed, and I know what PEP I
>> approved. Trying to play gotcha with links *isn't going to work*.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nick.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan at gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia
> 
> If I’m wrong, then by all means show me where it was discussed so I can admit
> I was wrong.
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Ironically, in another thread [1] on distutils-sig we have Daniel Holth, the author of
the PEP stating:

    The main reason the packaging format is not explicitly importable is
    simply because Python hasn't had "jar-like" deployment for as long or
    as consistently as Java. So while Java code universally uses a "get
    resource" API to get stuff on the classpath, a a lot of Python code
    will try to open a file. C extensions can't be loaded from inside zip
    files. And it's a lot harder to edit .py files once they are zipped
    up, unlike Java where only the compiled and non-editable .class files
    are zipped.

    ZIP import is a great feature but wheels aren't really designed for
    it. It's more reliable that way.

[1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2014-January/023554.html

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