[Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

[Stefan Krah]

Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I understand you think that is the purpose of PyPI, but I'm trying to
> > > tell you that the people that work on PyPI and pip do not share this
> > > opinion, and as such it can be considered incorrect.
> >
> > If only the opinions of the persons working on PyPI and pip matter, the
> > logical consequence would be to remove ensurepip from the tree.
> 
> Stefan, I realise you weren't able to attend the language summit in 2013, but
> this delegation of authority to distutils-sig is exactly what the PEP 1 process
> changes and the assignment of myself and Richard Jones as BDFL delegates that
> came out of that event was about. python-dev are not the experts on language
> level distribution issues for Python - that role belongs to distutils-sig.
> 
> While the opinions of core developers do matter, we're also far from being
> representative of the wider Python community

It's not only about core developers. The main point is that it's very hard to
determine any general opinion of Python users. In fact, already in this thread
we have four people stating that their expectations differ from the "official"
ones.


Stefan Krah