[Distutils] Hobby time (was: some questions about PEP470)

Ian Cordasco graffatcolmingov at gmail.com
Fri Oct 17 01:54:50 CEST 2014

On Oct 16, 2014 4:47 PM, "Tres Seaver" <tseaver at palladion.com> wrote:
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> On 10/14/2014 09:15 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Stefan Krah <stefankrah at freenet.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Donald Stufft <donald <at> stufft.io> writes:
> >>>
> >>>>> If you're this upset over someone redistributing your work,
> >>>>> then maybe Open Source Software is the wrong hobby for you.
> >>>
> >>> Usually one does not tell a core developer that his contributions
> >>> are "a hobby".  I have contributed 40000+ lines of original, dense
> >>> C code, backed by 100% code coverage and 30000+ lines of ACL2
> >>> proofs.
> > Uhh, maybe you’re misunderstanding the word hobby, unless you’re
> > getting paid for your OSS work you’re not doing it professionally. A
> > hobby isn’t a negative thing, until last December my OSS work was
> > entirely a hobby too, and it’s still a hobby in my spare time too.
> That use of "hobby" vs. "professional" is completely irrelevant to the
> discussion, and is effectively condescending and ad hominem.  In my
> experience, the quality and committment of a developer's open source work
> are often unrelated to whether she gets paid directly by an employer to
> do it.  Getting paid *does* make it possible to devote more time, rather
> than passion, to one's projects.
> Tres.
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A hobby is by definition what you do in your free time. Donald is clearly
encouraging Stefan to spend his free time as he wishes. None of us who
participate in our free time are obligated to support anything beyond our
desire to do so, unlike someone who's paid to work on their project(s). It
almost seems like you're nitpicking the valid usage of a word to pile into
an argument in which you have nothing valid to say. I know it doesn't
usually happen on mailing lists, but that's what it seems like here.
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