[Distutils] PEP 440 on PyPI

Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io
Sun Jan 25 18:27:34 CET 2015


> On Jan 25, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Ian Cordasco <graffatcolmingov at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:52 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>> On 25.01.2015 17:46, Ian Cordasco wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 25.01.2015 16:34, Donald Stufft wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think you ought to make a more prominent announcement on
>>>>>> c.l.p, c.l.p.a and perhaps a distutils blog (if there is one).
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is c.l.p and c.l.p.a?
>>>> 
>>>> That's short for comp.lang.python and comp.lang.python.announce,
>>>> which are gateway'ed to mailing lists:
>>>> 
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list
>>>> 
>>>>> There is no distutils blog.
>>>> 
>>>> Given how quickly things change, I think this would be a good
>>>> way of getting the word out to a wider audience than the
>>>> distutils mailing list.
>>> 
>>> I've only been on this list for about a year. This PEP (and others
>>> like it) has been in motion for quite a while. I think the blog would
>>> miss far more people than the mailing list would and I'm not sure I
>>> agree with "how quickly things change". There doesn't seem to be much
>>> content for the blog and it seems like something that would just
>>> become neglected. What topics do you really think would be better
>>> suited for a blog post than a message to here and related announcement
>>> lists?
>> 
>> The blog posts could automatically get copied over to
>> Twitter and mailing lists using e.g. IFTTT, and it would
>> be possible to subscribe using RSS/Atom feeds.
>> 
>> The advantage of a blog is having news entries persist and be
>> easy to find, while at the same time simplifying the whole
>> publishing process.
>> 
>> Anyway, just a suggestion.
> 
> I still don't understand the benefit. You could just as easily have
> the mailing list mirrored to a blog if we felt it would help but
> distutils-sig has public archives and (I think) is indexed by Google.
> Donald, Paul, Nick, Richard, Jason, and everyone else whose name I'm
> forgetting are already working a lot on PyPI, packaging, pip,
> setuptools, etc. I don't see the benefit in maintaining the blog on
> top of their other responsibilities. Maybe if someone else steps up to
> be an editor and take mailing list posts and turn them into blog
> posts, that'd be cool, but I don't see the value in making them
> maintain yet another thing on top of what they do.

I’ve thought about doing something like this https://devcenter.heroku.com/changelog
but I hadn’t had the time to actually do anything to make it a thing.

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