[Distutils] [Numpy-discussion] Proposal: stop supporting 'setup.py install'; start requiring 'pip install .' instead

Paul Moore p.f.moore at gmail.com
Sun Nov 8 08:45:40 EST 2015

On 8 November 2015 at 13:34, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8 November 2015 at 11:13, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > "wheels and sdists" != "release artifacts"
>> Please explain. All you've done here is state that you don't agree
>> with me, but given no reasons.
> Come on, I elaborated in the sentence right below it. Which you cut out in
> your reply. Here it is again:
> "I fully agree of course that we want things on PyPi (which are release
> artifacts) to have unique version numbers etc. But wheels and sdists are
> produced all the time, and only sometimes are they release artifacts."

Sorry, my mistake. I didn't see how this part related (and still
don't). What are wheels and sdists if they are not not "release
artifacts"? Are we just quibbling about the what term "release
artifact" means? If so, I'll revert to using "wheels and sdists" as I
did in my repsonse. I thought it was obvious that wheels and sdists
*are* the release artifacts in the process of producing Python
packages. It doesn't matter where they are released *to*, it can be to
PyPI, or a local server, or just to a wheelhouse or other directory on
your PC that you keep for personal use only. Once they are created by
you as anything other than a temporary file in a multi-step install
process they are "release artifacts" as I understand/mean the term.

But terminology's not a big deal, as long as we understand each other.

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