[Distutils] The future of invoking pip

Wes Turner wes.turner at gmail.com
Wed Nov 11 09:15:02 EST 2015


On Nov 10, 2015 11:09 PM, "Wayne Werner" <waynejwerner at gmail.com> wrote:
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> With all of the weirdness involved, it makes me wonder - could there be a
better way? If we waved our hands and were able to magically make Python
package management perfect, what would that look like?
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> Would that kind of discussion even be valuable?

e.g. re-specifying the mission, goals, and objectives of PyPA?

or e.g. creating a set of numbered user stories / specification
requirements?

"[Users] can [...] (in order to [...] (thus [saving\gaining] [resource
xyz]))"

* Users can install packages from a package index IOT:
  * share code: sdist
  * share binaries: save build time,

* Users can specify (python) package dependencies

* [ ] Users can specify (platform) package (build) dependencies
  * e.g. libssl-dev
  * conda does not solve for this either

* [ ] Users can link between built packages and source VCS revisions with
URIs
  * platform-rev / rev-platform
  * **diff**

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> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 6:22 PM Nathaniel Smith <njs at pobox.com> wrote:
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>> I totally get why people dislike the ergonomics of 'python -m pip',
>> but we can also acknowledge that it does solve a real technical
>> problem: it strictly reduces the number of things that can go wrong,
>> in a tool that's down at the base of the stack.
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