[Distutils] Towards a simple and standard sdist format that isn't intertwined with distutils

[Daniel Holth]

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On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:25 AM Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:

> On October 5, 2015 at 9:11:59 AM, Paul Moore (p.f.moore at gmail.com) wrote:
> > On 5 October 2015 at 13:44, Donald Stufft wrote:
> > > [3] Unlike Paul, I think a Source Wheel is actually a decent name for
> this
> > > concept. It's similar to .rpm and .src.rpm in that world, and I think
> it
> > > makes it more obvious that this item isn't an installable item in it's
> own
> > > right, that it exists in order to produce binary wheels. However, this
> > > concept is currently being handled by the sdist "format", however
> > > ambigiously defined that currently is. I also think it makes it a bit
> > > easier to get rid of the ambigous "package", since we can just call
> them
> > > all "wheels" which is easier to say than "distribution".
> >
> > Being a Windows user, I hadn't caught the parallel between
> > Wheel-Source wheel and RPM-Source RPM (is there also a similar
> > deb-source deb pair?)
> >
> > But if the concept works for people with a Linux background, I'm OK with
> it.
> >
> > (My main concern is that end users commonly make requests to projects
> > saying "please provide wheels". I don't want that nice simple concept
> > to get confused, if we can avoid it).
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
> I'm not dead set on the source wheel name or anything either fwiw. I liked
> the
> parallels between that and .src.rpm and .rpm and I think the "sdist" name
> is
> kind of a mouthful to say. The debian analog to a source rpm is just a
> "source
> package", but that's really just a directory that you can run the debian
> build
> tools in, it's not really a package format like source RPMs are. Source
> RPMs
> have an "install" concept, but it's not really like pip's install, it just
> unpacks the file into place so that you can later build it.
>
> The main thing I wanted was something that wasn't a mouthful to say and
> that
> had a dedicated extension so we don't end up where the filename looks
> incredibly generic (requests-1.0.swhl vs requests-1.0.tar.gz). I liked the
> idea
> of tying it into Wheels to keep the "new guard" of packaging formats
> related to
> each other, but I'm also happy to use a different term.
>
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