[Edu-sig] RE: Edu-sig digest, Vol 1 #704 - 1 msg

[John Posner]

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 >>    1. Re: python in high school (Doug Holton)
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 >> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 23:50:56 -0500
 >> From: Doug Holton <etd1@edtechdev.org>
 >> Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] python in high school
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 >> > I would like to use python as the programming language for the 
 >> > programming subjects we run. Ideally, it would be an easy 
 >> task if Boa 
 >> > constructor were up to scratch (which I hope it will be 
 >> soon, but not 
 >> > soon enough for our
 >> > college) since having a graphical IDE is important. Price 
 >> is important. I
 >> > have come to python through plone (zope/cmf). We have a 
 >> toss up between VB
 >> > 6.0 and me pushing for python. The decision needs to be 
 >> made soon for next
 >> > year. We were using J++ (don't ask). Low price will push 
 >> it past the 'all
 >> > the other programming teachers like VB' hurdle, as long 
 >> as it had an IDE
 >> > that had drag and drop components. I think this would 
 >> also be good for
 >> > python in the long term in terms of increasing python use.
 >> 
 >> I'm very new to Python myself, but Qt seems to have an easy 
 >> to use GUI 
 >> builder that you can connect to Python using PyQt: 
 >> http://www.trolltech.com/forms/eduprogram.html
 >> See also the book:  http://www.opendocspublishing.com/pyqt/
 >> 
 >> I wrote a summary of some different rapid prototyping 
 >> options, including 
 >> the one you mentioned (Boa Constructor with wxPython): 
 >>  >> http://edtechdev.org/blog/archives/001217.html
 >> 
 >> But I'm not 
 >> 
 >> sure if a GUI builder tool is necessary for your purposes. 
 >> To use python for learning programming, the IDLE text 
 >> editor is probably 
 >> more appropriate.  Learning the principles of programming 
 >> is different 
 >> than rapid prototyping.
 >> 
 >> But I do agree with you that it would be nice to have a 
 >> drag and drop 
 >> Python GUI builder that kills VB.  You drag a button into a 
 >> form editor, 
 >> for example, then doubleclick the button and it jumps right to the 
 >> "onclick" handler in the code editor.  This is how HyperCard and 
 >> Supercard work too, but PythonCard and the other Python GUI 
 >> builders do 
 >> not do it this way.  Again though, for students in 
 >> programming classes, 
 >> it's better that they learn how to create the event 
 >> handlers themselves.
 >> 
 >> 
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