[Edu-sig] "Croquet Project" and Python ?
francois.schnell at free.fr
Tue Oct 19 21:50:06 CEST 2004
I just read the CP4E manifesto/project which I entirely and
"enthousiasticly" agree with. I really hope it will reborn.
When I read it, it made me thought partly of some similar goals in the
work of Alan Kay and al (www.squeakland.org / www.squeak.org / and now
the croquet project) and others like Seymour Papert before.
A this point of the mail I must supply the list moderator (and the
members of the list) to not kick me off since I'm not speaking of the
good Guru in the good list ...
I then confess that I have nothing to do with the squeak Community and
that my squeak mastering is probably as good as chineese (E-Toys is
mostly my limit with Squeak).
In an educational context (and even in a not educational context) Python
is the langauge I find the most usefull, creative and interesting and
my colleagues already know my opnion to well.
I may then proceed (safely ?) to the next paragraph ...
I recently discovered the new "croquet project":
But it's Squeak based :-(
But when I read the FAQ :-)
/Question: Will the OpenCroquet project be one-programming language
centric (i.e. Squeak)?
//Answer: We are currently working on providing alternative language
some level of access to Java. The key elements of successfully working
in a Croquet context is that the language be late bound, and have some
kind of message based object control. TeaTime is based entirely upon
sending messages to objects.
Croquet is in an early alpha stage but it sounds very promising.
Will it take off ? I wouldn't bet my Python plush on that. But if it
does, would'nt it be great to see a strong Python in that too?
Are there Python fellows working on that ?
I'm also aware of Visual Python which I find great but I'd like to find
much more interest in it.
Croquet is also very different with aspects like the massively
I say all that because you guys are rare...
In the open source community I sadly find that the percentage of people
intersed in the vital field of education (like me and you) is pretty,
I actualy didn't find any "community" able to reach the critical mass
to strongly influence any national curiculum in regard to programming
It would maybe improve to find more interoperability in groups
interested in this field while keeping their (and mine) beloved
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