[Edu-sig] PySqueak: pyGTK & Cairo & pygtkglext (OpenGL) next?
andre.roberge at gmail.com
Sat Jun 3 23:53:21 CEST 2006
On 6/3/06, francois schnell <francois.schnell at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/06/06, Paul D. Fernhout <pdfernhout at kurtz-fernhout.com> wrote:
> - Python resources (+ videos)
> - all the educational Python softs possible (patapata, vpython,
> Crunchy-Frog, rur-ple, "gnu-math", pyro, pygeo, pygame, pymol, etc ...)
> - Pyhon and Python bindings apps to make contents with (Blender, Gimp,
> etc) or to play games.
> In fact I'd like something I could show to people and say : all this
> software are done either in Python or you can tinker them with Python
> (bindings) and if you want to begin to discover/learn Python all you need
> is the live CD and begin playing with all these.
> Concerning your java options, I don't know if you've seen the Logo TNG Gui
> on OS-X :
Nice! This is obviously not the work of hobbyists. However, while the GUI
is impressive, I am somewhat puzzled by their choice of angle measurement: 0
degree is "up" (i.e. y-axis in the traditional notation), 90 degrees is
"right" (i.e. x-axis), etc. So, angles are increasing in the clockwise
direction, starting from the y-axis. I wonder what their rationale is to
use this non-conventional notation. It reminds me of the standard choice
for the origin (top left) of screen image, with increasing y-coordinates
going down, versus the standard mathematical choice for the origin (center
... or bottom left) with increasing y-coordinates going up.
I'm not a big Java fan but if Java applets could help to bring patapata in a
> browser with some python code background it could be important.
> For Alan Kay the browser is something to reconsider:
After reading Kay's post, I can say that Crunchy Frog appears to be heading
in a similar way (fingers crossed) where you will be able to do turtle
graphics. (And, hopefully, eventually ... embedded rur-ple :-) Who knows,
one day, perhaps patapata will be supported in a browser using Crunchy
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