[Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

[ajsiegel at optonline.net]

----- Original Message -----
From: Dethe Elza <delza at livingcode.org>
> 
> Um, possibly because you come off pretty strongly, and seemed to be 
 
> upset that it was even being discussed?

Yeah I guess I do and I was.  OTOH,  in reading back through the thread I see
that Vern was quite explicit, let's get some basic things fixed and *then* decide
how much we want to push for a less minimal turtle in the the standard distribution.

I can see that my focus on the 2nd stage disrupted the discussion of the first.

I owe an apology and I offer it.

> 
> All that given, I'd be in favor of seeing a "more batteries 
> included"  
> distro of Python for the big three platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac)  
> that included VPython, PyGame, and other neat toys.  But recent  
> efforts with the Cheese Shop and easy_install are making an uber- 
> distro of Python less necessary, since it's becoming much easier to 

> add the libraries you need/want.

I am not yet a fan of easy install, and I know I am not alone in that.

And there is nothing at all easy about it at the monent, it requiring an install of the
installer.

My point about IDLE not running setup.py is and was exactly to this issue.  I still wish
I could get some substantive reaction,  I think it important.

Art