[Edu-sig] An OLPC comment

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Wed Jan 17 16:17:55 CET 2007


Hi Art,

if you are interested in a serious discussion with OLPC, rather than  
just about OLPC, their open forum might be a better place than Python  
edu-sig.

See http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo

You might even get a response ;-)

- Bert -

Am Jan 17, 2007 um 15:15  schrieb Arthur:

>
> Hate being the grunch.  I hope the OLPC accomplishes everything it  
> sets
> out to and more.
>
> What I suspect is that - having learnt something about complexity and
> dynamic systems from computers - that the most profound effects of the
> initiative will be unintended ones. Let's hope they are mostly good.
>
> Particularly given this, I don't understand the embedded need, as part
> of the process, to the compromise on some basic ideas - normally  
> called
> science.
>
> We - on edu-sig - were trying to form some consensus on the need for
> empiricism around these issues.
>
> And in his own way, by my reading of events, my erstwhile friend Kirby
> was trying to suggest something along these lines during his
> participation at the Shuttleworth summit.  Or - maybe more what he was
> suggesting - is that until there is empricial evidence that leads  
> us in
> a certain and clear direction, best encourage the diversity of ideas.
>
> OLPC seem to represent very much a counter vision.
>
> Seems to me the OLPC has counter ideas on both empiricism *and* the
> diversity of ideas.
>
> Here is Nicholas Negroponte's reaction to the idea of bringing  
> empricism
> to the party.
>
> http://www.olpcnews.com/implementation/plan/ 
> implementation_miracle.html
>
> So there will not be consensus, apparently,
>
>
>
> Art
>
>
>
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