[Edu-sig] Need resource for beginners

[Sebastian Silva]

(sorry for the resend, sent from wrong address)

It's nice!

Like with any third party - closed source service, I always fear it will
be down when I really need it, and without a possibility to recover it
or, worse, student's creations.

Hopefully we can find (or build) something like this which is as
attractive and available with a proper "open source" license. I would
love to use it in that case.

For instance, I'd love to have this translated to Spanish, Quechua and
Aymara... and to port it into a Sugar Activity, for use offline.

No can do, have to start from zero.

Regards,
Sebastian

On 27/12/14 11:10, Tamim Shahriar wrote:
> https://groklearning.com/hoc-2014/ is a beautiful thing. I might 
> use it.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Jurgis Pralgauskis < 
> jurgis.pralgauskis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'd also propose Scratch first -- you'd save quite some time, 
>> when beginners make syntax and naming errors - with Scratch you 
>> can concentrate on logic instead on these errors.
>> 
>> For girls Python I think https://groklearning.com/hoc-2014/
>> would be ok (found on http://code.org/learn) -- has step-by-step 
>> explanations
>> 
>> For easier coding (not Python, but has similarities) 
>> http://www.playcodemonkey.com/ (also found on code.org/learn)
>> 
>> And If you'd like Scratch type small intro tasks -- very good 
>> start for any intro programming course -- 
>> http://studio.code.org/hoc/1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Tamim Shahriar 
>> <tamim.shahriar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks everyone for your suggestions. It will help me to
>>> design the outline and content I shall let you know how it
>>> goes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards, Tamim.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:36 AM, kirby urner 
>>> <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Tamim --
>>>> 
>>>> Speaking teacher-to-teacher, I think in terms of an XY graph 
>>>> with X-axis the techie nuts and bolts and Y-axis the lore / 
>>>> history / storytelling.
>>>> 
>>>> Then I draw a curve representing any given students 
>>>> "bandwidth horizon" and suggest varying the angle along the 
>>>> curve i.e. keep changing the mix of lore and tech.
>>>> 
>>>> Too many teachers neglect lore I think:  where did Python 
>>>> come from, who is Guido, what is open source, how many 
>>>> languages are there, what are they used for?
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, we can go overboard and have only "fluff" but it's
>>>> wrong to think of lore as "fluff" when in a good / healthy
>>>> trail mix with techie (e.g. the syntax itself, magic
>>>> methods...).
>>>> 
>>>> What I find is a real time saver and helpful is to *not* 
>>>> start with a blank canvas i.e. an empty screen and say "now 
>>>> code something".  Rather, start in the middle with something 
>>>> fairly complex yet understandable (conceptually) and invite 
>>>> them to make changes (plus they get to keep the code).
>>>> 
>>>> I took this approach with middle-to-high schoolers 
>>>> (teenagers) with limited experience at a summer school.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.4dsolutions.net/satacad/martianmath/toc.html
>>>> 
>>>> Each student had a high end Mac.  I had Visual Python 
>>>> installed with my stickworks.py and other goodies (all free 
>>>> and out there) so they had something visually interesting, a 
>>>> live animation, right from square one.
>>>> 
>>>> But then they could change some things.  I call this 
>>>> "providing scaffolding".
>>>> 
>>>> It's not like you're saying this is a shortcut to learning 
>>>> the language and people who slog along are wasting their 
>>>> time.  It's not that.  We're just front loading with
>>>> concepts and human interest material and recruiting a few
>>>> into diving in more seriously as a result of having so much
>>>> fun. We're not hiding the fact that it'll take a lot longer
>>>> to get good at Python.
>>>> 
>>>> Additional resources: 
>>>> http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/cp4e.html
>>>> 
>>>> Kirby
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Tamim Shahriar < 
>>>> tamim.shahriar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I am going to conduct a workshop next month. I shall use 
>>>>> Python in the day-long workshop. The workshop will be for 
>>>>> girls only (grade 9-10) who know how to use computers but 
>>>>> not familiar with programming.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anyone has experience conducting similar workshop and 
>>>>> has resource, please share.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, what do you think I should show them in the
>>>>> workshop? Every girl will have access to a computer during
>>>>> workshop? Should I go with solving problems from their math
>>>>> / physics book? Or should I try to show them simple games
>>>>> to make it more fun? I am waiting for your ideas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Tamim. Python Blog : 
>>>>> http://love-python.blogspot.com
>>>>> 
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>> -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; Don't worry, be happy
>> and make things better ;) http://galvosukykla.lt
>> 
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