[Edu-sig] Editors/IDEs for teaching

[Andre Roberge]

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 8:18 AM Aivar Annamaa <aivar.annamaa at ut.ee> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I just found an educational Python IDE nobody hasn't mention yet --
> TigerJython: http://jython.tobiaskohn.ch/index.html
>

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Thank you very much for this.

For those that look at the available links and do not pursue further
because they appear to point to resources written in German, note that some
documents are available in English (and French) in addition to German. For
example: http://www.tigerjython.com/engl/index.php

I have not tried it yet.  Reading the description, I like the fact that it
appears to be a self-contained environment (like Thonny and Mu) that
include nice simplified tracebacks and other features useful for beginners.

I note that it adds to standard Python a special repeat syntax

repeat n:
    # block of code

which is something I also support on Reeborg's World.  I suggested such an
addition for standard Python on the Python-ideas list but it was quickly
shut down (and I don't disagree with the rationale given - but I still
think it is something very useful in an environment designed for beginners).

It is possible to implement something like this in standard Python using
import hooks (as I reported some time ago on this list), but it is not
exactly easy.  (I may have more to say on this soon.)

André
​




>
> Here is author's PhD thesis:
> https://tobiaskohn.ch/files/Dissertation_TKohn.pdf
>
> best regards,
> Aivar
>
> 03.07.2018 17:27 Andre Roberge kirjutas:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm compiling a list of available editors for Python designed specifically
> for teaching, with information about the primary targeted audiences and
> would welcome your comments and/or suggestions for additions or
> corrections. So far, I have
>
> Target audience (my own draft definition; feel free to improve upon this):
>
> * young learners  (elementary and high school students)
>
> * hobbyists - beginners of all ages learning on their own
>
> * CS 100 course: elective course targeted at non CS (or even non STEM)
> students. The focus is more on concepts, using Python as the practical tool
> to learn these concepts, rather than learning the Pythonic idioms or
> learning the effectiveness of various algorithms. For example, list
> comprehensions would likely not be covered in such a course as it does not
> add anything conceptually to an explicit for loop.
>
> * CS 101 course: core course in CS meant as a requirement for future
> courses. Some pythonic idioms and details about algorithms would likely be
> covered.
>
> Editors / IDEs :
>
> * IDLE: included with Python. Intended for everyone.
> * Mu (https://codewith.mu/). Primarily intended for young learners and
> hobbyists.
> * Thonny. (http://thonny.org/) I am guessing that it is primarily
> intended for CS 101.
> * Wing 101 (https://wingware.com/downloads/wingide-101) Primarily
> intended for CS 101.
> * PyCharm Edu (https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm-edu/) Primarily intended
> for CS 101.
>
> I am not looking for web-based solutions [otherwise, I would have had
> included Reeborg's World ;-)] and do not want to include obsolete or no
> longer maintained software (like rur-ple, the precursor to Reeborg's World.)
>
> Best,
>
> André
>
>
>
>
>
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