[EuroPython] Voting proposals

Paul Everitt paul at eurozope.org
Mon Aug 18 15:35:20 EDT 2003


On Monday, Aug 18, 2003, at 12:30 Europe/Paris, Tom Deprez wrote:

>> It would be great if we had, not only a time and a place, but also
>> speakers and a finished program earlier than this year. It's not
>> easy to sell something before there is any content to present. As
>> I remember, there was no substancial info about EPC 2003 on the
>> web site when the first announcements went out. Once the talks
>> started to materialize, there was plenty of stuff, but by the time
>> I felt that I needed to plan and make a decision, there was nothing
>> on the web site, and it was only because I was a mailing list
>> subscriber that I felt that I knew enough to decide to go. The
>> typical visitor won't be that involved.
>>
>> If people start to register earlier it will also make it much
>> easier to plan, and the liquidity of EPC will be better.
>
> Let me get into this.... you need people to help or to fill the gaps in
> if you want to have information to spread... which we never had not in
> 2002, nor in 2003. People only pop in to help if the conference is
> close. I don't think a new conference place will solve this attedude...
> so I warn you, there needs to be done much more to attrack people to
> help.

That's exactly correct.  There's a bunch of crappy work that nobody 
wants to do.

> All I hear from these mails is, how bad Charleroi is, how much better 
> it

I don't think that's fair, to say that all the mails are negative.  
Quite a few mails, certainly mine, are quite blunt about the good job 
you did.

> can be done on another place. How late the organisation was, etc.... 
> Let
> me tell you this: everybody is responsilbe, not only the people who
> stick there hands out to help... there wouldn't have been two previous
> EPC's if somebody didn't took all the risk and worked on it as much as
> they could and with the resources they had.

Indeed.

> I really don't loke some statements made on this list, please have a
> little bit respect for the previous events. It looks like some of you
> see them as "dish-water". Well, that gives a nice feeling for the 
> people
> who've put a lot of effort and time in it.

I think you're reaching too far on this, Tom.  I don't think there has 
lately been any evidence of some universal dishwater response.  All in 
all, this feels a lot like classic volunteer stuff: lots of people with 
lots of strong opinions about what should be done with other people's 
time. :^)

--Paul




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