[EuroPython] EP 2004 decision rather quickly?

[Nicolas Chauvat]

On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:47:08PM +0200, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
> From: "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
> >
> 
> >Magnus Lyckå wrote:
> >> At 11:09 2003-07-04 +0200, Tom Deprez wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do people really think we earn money on organising it?
> >>
> >> No, and I don't think it's really reasonable. I hope that
> >> it has given you experience and contacts that will be
> >> useful for you in the future though.
> >>
> >> I was trying to understand what Marc-Andre meant.
> >
> >I meant that Tom and Denis should add proper compensation for
> >their invested time to the conference budget, just like a
> >professional organizer would.
> 
> >
> >You as consultant should know that good work needs good pay and
> >I can't really understand your position in suggesting that Tom
> >and Denis should continue to do their job for free.
> >
> 
> If organising the EuroPython Conferences deteriorates into a way for those
> involved to make a buck, I am not interested in participating.
> 
> I don't give a 2 öre about statements like "good work needs good pay". Maybe
> I am a special case (not likely) but to me good work is good work regardless
> of whether it pays off or not, and bad work is to be avoided.
> 
> Now, if this is about compensating some individuals for the extraordinarly
> hard/good work they have done and the time they have devoted **because they
> suffered a loss that was not expected**, ie. consulting work that was
> delayed, forced unpayed vacation from normal day work because of the amount
> of conference work involved, etc., then that is perfectly allright by me.

I agree. If we get to compensate the organizers for part of their loss,
I wish it to be like "my company spends X EUR for me working one day, I spent
Y days working on the conference, my company could get reimbursed for X*Z EUR (Z<=Y)".

But transforming the organizers into professionals is in my opinion a very bad idea, for many rather obvious reasons (we're doing software, not events, who will decide how much is payed to the organizers, etc.)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

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