[Idle-dev] [ idlefork-Patches-682347 ] Another locale encoding patch

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Patches item #682347, was opened at 2003-02-07 15:47
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Status: Open
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Priority: 5
Submitted By: Kirill Simonov (kirill_simonov)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Another locale encoding patch

Initial Comment:
This patch is for use with the patch #615312.

With this patch, stdin.readline() returns an ordinary
string in the locale's encoding, not an Unicode string.

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Comment By: Martin v. Löwis (loewis)
Date: 2003-03-24 10:02

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Reason #2 is obsolete now; raw_input *can* result in Unicode 
strings in Python 2.3.

I can sympathise with the patch. However, I would like to see 
it combined with a patch to let applications determine the 
encoding used, e.g. by querying sys.stdin.encoding. 
Otherwise, getting raw bytes will complicate matters. See 
also Python patch #612627, which adds the encoding 
attribute to a terminal stdout.

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Comment By: Kirill Simonov (kirill_simonov)
Date: 2003-02-18 00:25

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There are no such a problem with Idlefork.
The author of the post was using the original IDLE from the
2.2 distribution.

Note the line in the traceback:

File "[...]\Tools\idle\ColorDelegator.py", line 196, in
recolorize_main
    if value in ("def", "class"):

The line 196 of ColorDelegator.py from Idlefork 0.9a2 is
different.

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Comment By: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk)
Date: 2003-02-17 23:14

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Does this solve the problem mentioned in
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/idle-dev/2003-February/001628.html


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Comment By: Kirill Simonov (kirill_simonov)
Date: 2003-02-07 16:35

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Two reasons.

1. The following script does not work correctly in IDLE:

# -*- encoding: koi8-r -*-
name = raw_input("What's your name?")
print "Hi %s!" % name

I use russian phrases here, of course.

And if I enter my name using cyrillic letters,
I get UnicodeError. This is because I mixed
a Unicode string with with an 8-bit string.

I know that I can use unicode literals,
but I don't think that my students should know
anything about Unicode, 6 cyrrilic encodings,
etc, especially when they are writing their first
program.

Note that this program is absolutely correct and
run perfectly from console. So I think that it
should work in IDLE too.

2. I believe that raw_input() and stdin.readline()
must always return either Unicode strings or
8-bit strings, but do not mix them.

P.S. I think that -*- encoding -*- comments are
very unfriendly for newbies too, but that's another
story.

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Comment By: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum)
Date: 2003-02-07 15:55

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Why would you want that?

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