[Inpycon] Venue suggestion for PyCon India 2015

[Kracekumar Ramaraju]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar <
benignbala at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Kracekumar Ramaraju <me at kracekumar.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > Do we really have so much advance talk submissions ?
>>>
>>> We won't attract any advanced talk submissions because people who do
>>> that kind of thing see PyCon India as a large gathering of newbies with
>>> very basic talks.
>>>
>>> I personally wouldn't submit a talk about anything advanced if I knew
>>> that most of the audience were first timers. Why would I? If I knew that
>>> the people who were attending are experienced, I'd be willing to put
>>> stuff out in front of them to solicit feedback and have interesting
>>> discussions. If most of the audience won't understand what I'm saying,
>>> why should I submit a talk at all?
>>>
>>>
>> If 40% of audience are non newbies, still there is high audience for
>> interaction.
>>
>
> +1, 40% is a good number. And if there are 1000 participants, I would say
> anything more than 200 should be considered a good crowd to present
> something serious and get feedback.
>
>
> For example we had this rule as part of Talk selection. The talk `Medusa:
>> A much faster Python implementation based on the Dart Virtual Machine  `
>> was given by college student and first timer.
>> It was one of the well received talk and was considered advanced talk.
>>
>
>          That's a fine example - But there was also another talk(I believe
> the first one on day one after the keynote in Audi 1) which was not well
> presented. And those who got seats in the back half couldn't even figure
> out what the presenter was showing.(agree that slide visibility is a
> different problem, but way it is presented was also not very good).
>

Agreed, we have noted this point. Next year we will send these instructions
to presenter.


>
>
>
>> I'm strident about this because apart from the talk quality, everything
>>> is good at the conference. This is the only thing I've heard big
>>> complaints about and this, in my opinion, is the way to fix it.
>>>
>>>
>> Talk quality != advanced level talks.
>>
>
>          Agreed - Talk quality and advanced talks are different. But if I
> understand correct, Noufal is talking about "in depth" content in talks.
> For eg. "Multi threaded web server in python" might look like a very simple
> topic. But if they have stuff on how they handle GIL, I would call that an
> advanced level talk.
>

Didn't I say similar thing in my previous email ?
"Having advance level talks is good but having only advance level is not
great idea."


>
> While we discuss this, I have some feedback on the venue itself(which
> happens to be the subject of the email :) - Audi 2 is not big enough to
> accomodate large audience. There were 3 talks in Audi 2 which I had to miss
> because by the time I switched from Audi 1 to 2, it got filled up and I
> either had to stand at very back. I don't know a lot of places in Bangalore
> - But if there is something where one hall can accomodate 1000+ (for the
> keynote) and the other can accomodate 500-600 that should be good.
> Otherwise, we get constrained by space. Thanks
>
>
>
That is disadvantage of NIMHANS, valid point and lot of people have raised
this concern.


>
> --
> Thank you
> Balachandran Sivakumar
>
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