[IronPython] [Ironruby-core] DLR IDE

Stefan Dobrev stefan.dobrev at gmail.com
Fri Jul 25 16:16:56 CEST 2008

Hi Benn,

I haven't created the codeplex project to start coding ASAP. My idea was to
use the codeplex wiki to gather requirements for what a good DLR IDE (name
it editor if you like). Actually I have first created a pbwiki for this, but
then realized that codeplex's wiki can be used as well, so no need to have
two different places for information about the same project.

My idea about the project is have something similar to TextMate, but web
based. Naming it IDE doesn't imply that it should be huge as VS, does it? I
just find it more funny and easy to pronanunce dlride (DLR IDE) that can
pronanunce (D L ride) - saying that your are riding (on) dynamic languges.

I don't want this to be my IDE. I just want it to be ours - from the
community to the community. That's it.

Have fun,

2008/7/25 Ben Hall <ben2004uk at googlemail.com>

> Hi Stefan,
> An interesting approach - you want people to collaborate so you start
> a new project?
> When writing the editors, people have lots of different reasons for
> doing so - not everyone wants to create an IDE, some people just want
> to create a cool sample to learn Silverlight \ DLR which they then
> release.  Some people don't want to collaborate with others, that is
> not their aim and you can't blame people for that.
> Personally, since releasing IronEditor I have had loads of people
> sending me sample code, feature requests, and some other really really
> interesting stuff. People are collaborating behind the scenes to
> improve the application, personally I have a list of other people I
> want to contact about improving the application and working together.
> Same with Michael Foord's TryPython, lots of people provided feedback
> after he went live. Collaboration isn't just code.
> Good luck with your IDE, but open source projects are not as easy as
> they sound, I look forward to seeing how it goes.  I tried to make
> this point on your post, however your spam filter wasn't displaying
> any images - makes it difficult to make a comment then :)
> On a side note, if people want to help with IronEditor - contact me
> offline.  Thanks for everyone who has already.
> Thanks
> Ben
> Blog.BenHall.me.uk
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Stefan Dobrev <stefan.dobrev at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Wouldn't be nice if we all create a DLR IDE. I have being thinking for
> this
> > for quite some times recently. As usually happens someone else also has
> been
> > thinking of this and actually blogged about it here. Saying:
> > ---
> >
> > So what's my point?  I think all of these projects are great and kudos to
> > the people that built them.  It takes a lot of time and effort above and
> > beyond just regular work hours. I have been there myself, my hats off to
> you
> > folks!  But, there are 8 versions of the interactive console and a few
> > versions of a basic code editor.  I know it may be a dream, but it would
> be
> > great to collaborate with these people and write out a simple set of
> > requirements for what a great DLR console and code editor would be.  And
> > then as a virtual team, implement it.
> >
> >
> >
> > After all, to a large degree, it will be how well supported the language
> is
> > from a tools perspective that will really determine the rate of adoption.
> > And right now, the tools (or IDE) experience for Dynamic Languages on
> .NET
> > is severely lacking to the point of having several people independently
> > developing their own tooling.  In this post I only pointed out a handful
> of
> > these tools and I know there are others, but I was really targeting
> > web-based IDE's.  Maybe that is an opportunity?  Or is it a pipe dream?
> >
> > ---
> >
> > So let's come together and build a difference.
> >
> > I have made the first step and created a project on codeplex  -
> > http://codeplex.com/dlride. I have also written some basic requirements
> for
> > the project in the wiki. Let we all collaborate on them.
> >
> > For everyone who want to take a part, please feel free to contact me, so
> I
> > can give you permissions for the project on codeplex.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stefan
> >
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