[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] "Invite" vs. autoresponders

Barry A. Warsaw barry at python.org
Sun Jan 19 18:06:52 EST 2003

>>>>> "JWB" == John W Baxter <jwblist at olympus.net> writes:

    SB> I've recently discovered that vacation autoresponders will
    SB> subscribe recipients to Mailman lists when they get
    SB> "invited".

    JWB> Well, there are different needs for different Mailman sites.
    JWB> If you have to convince your provider that every address in
    JWB> your list truly wanted to be there, it's "unhandy" for there
    JWB> to be such a simple example of involuntary subscription,
    JWB> which the provider can demonstrate at will.

Exactly what constitutes "proof" from a legal context would be an
interesting discussion to have.  At the spam conference, Jon Praed
gave a great talk about the spammers he's successfully sued, and the
fact that they might be going after bulk email software venders.

Now, clearly Mailman has legitimate uses, but I still think it would
be interesting to know what Mailman can do better to create logs that
would meet some legal standard of opt-in.


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